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Old 05-08-2012, 09:43 PM   #11
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I feel the recipe looks much closer than the initial one NB posted. At a homebrew scale I would probably go a little heavier at the flavor additions as well. I mean after all this is supposed to be a "hop stoopid" beer. I might bump the chinook and cascade addition @12 up to 1 oz each and the simcoe @10 to 2 oz.

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Theres more than one way to skin a cat and I see improvement as a better recourse than cloning! Do what sounds like it would fit your tastes. The only reason I'd try and do an exact clone is if I was actually attending the event and meeting Lags brewer to do a comparison. Beyond that, I say follow your instincts.
I just wanted to post something which seemed like a closer mathmatic replication of the recipe since I saw some discrepencies.

I gotta get my hands on some simcoe so I can brew this


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Old 05-09-2012, 10:45 PM   #12
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Theres more than one way to skin a cat and I see improvement as a better recourse than cloning! Do what sounds like it would fit your tastes. The only reason I'd try and do an exact clone is if I was actually attending the event and meeting Lags brewer to do a comparison. Beyond that, I say follow your instincts.
I just wanted to post something which seemed like a closer mathmatic replication of the recipe since I saw some discrepencies.

I gotta get my hands on some simcoe so I can brew this
Agreed. I'm the same way. Can't say I've ever actually used an exact clone of an official recipe. I can just usually tell what I might like better.

It would be good to try the original as a baseline for my brew equipment, but I've always loved the changes I make.


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Just updated the recipe on the OP to reflect Astronomical/forum04pl's changes.

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Old 05-09-2012, 10:51 PM   #14
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how would u do this without a hopshot?
If it were me, I'd just replace the hopshot with a clean High Alpha Acid hop. Magnum comes to mind.
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Old 05-10-2012, 12:27 AM   #15
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To those discussing increasing the mash temp -- in the NB post Lagunitas mentioned making sure the beer finishes at 3-4 Plato tops, which to me the beer tastes more like 2-3 which is where I'd keep it to let the hops speak. They also use something similiar to the Fullers strain. I'd mash no higher than the yeast you choose will let in order to get the attenuation. In the cybi union jack episode, Matt Bryndilson mashes at 145 with their Fullers-esque strain to hit 3 Plato.

Food for thought. Also, waiting 10 minutes on the flameout hops seems short. I'd go with 30 minutes for huge flavor and aroma extraction. My opinion of course.

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19.6 lbs of alpha in 85 bbl. Isn't that something like 3.68 oz of 100% alpha per bbl or 24.53 oz of 15% alpha hop per bbl. Which is like 4.75 oz of 15% hop in 6 gallons at 90 min. That will be a lot more ibus than 102. More like high 200s.

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Old 05-10-2012, 07:15 AM   #17
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19.6 lbs of alpha in 85 bbl. Isn't that something like 3.68 oz of 100% alpha per bbl or 24.53 oz of 15% alpha hop per bbl. Which is like 4.75 oz of 15% hop in 6 gallons at 90 min. That will be a lot more ibus than 102. More like high 200s.
Agreed.. I noticed that when I was doing the math and I came to the conclusion that they must have just meant high alpha hops. It would take 4.5oz of 13%AA to reach what was proposed. Definitely more than 102 IBU4U.
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From a podcast I heard Lagunitas used 102 IBU's on their bottle just because "102 IBU's for you" sounded good haha.

They went on to speak how the beer obviously has well over 100 theoretical IBU's, but once 100+ is reached the human palate can't really pick up the differences.

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Also the 102 is probably tested not calculated

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They have said they do measure IBUs on CYBI.

Over 7 oz of hops in the boil on the homebrew level isn't as crazy to deal with as over 200 lbs in 85 barrels on the pro level. Hence the use of hop extract to reduce wort loss. We can just up the boil volume to compensate for trub/hop loss for a few dollars. Pros are trying to make money so wort losses cost profit.



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