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Old 05-08-2012, 05:48 AM   #1
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Default Lagunitas Hop Stoopid Clone - Straight from Lagunitas

Thought this would make many people happy.


All-Grain
At 70% efficiency
90 minute boil
OG 1.074

14 lbs 2 row
.5 lb Briess Victory
1 oz Nugget at 90 minutes
5.5 ml Hopshot at 60 minutes
0.65 oz Cascade and 0.65 Chinook at 12 min
1.3 oz Simcoe at flameout, wait 10 min before chilling
Pitch yeast starter of y1028 London Ale

Dry Hop
.77 oz chinook
1.5 oz simcoe
3 oz columbus

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Extract
90 minute boil
OG 1.074

10.25 lbs Gold Malt Syrup
.5 lb Briess Victory
1.5 oz Nugget at 90 minutes
6.5 ml Hopshot at 60 minutes
0.65 oz Cascade and 0.65 Chinook at 12 min
1.3 oz Simcoe at flameout, wait 10 min before chilling
Pitch yeast starter of y1028 London Ale

Dry Hop
.77 oz chinook
1.5 oz simcoe
3 oz columbus


http://www.northernbrewer.com/connec...-clone-recipe/

Gonna brew this very soon.

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Old 05-08-2012, 06:08 AM   #2
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Whole note from Lagunitas and Northern Brewer's homebrew conversion recipe (With the original dry-hop conversion error):

Quote:
“Hello to all you Homebrewers out there! Lagunitas Brewing Co has put
together (what WE think is) a cool idea for us all to have some extra fun at
your National Homebrew Conference this year in Seattle.

I’m attaching our recipe for Hop Stoopid. Here’s the challenge:

For those of you coming out to the National Conference this year in Seattle,
why don’t you give our Hop Stoopid recipe a go?? Brew a batch and
see how it turns out. Then bring a bottle of your finished product to the
conference and join us in our suite at the Westin Bellvue, attached to the
Hyatt Regency. We’ll have OUR version of Hop Stoopid there AND our Head
Brewer, Jeremy Marshall! You can sample your beer against ours and see
how close you got. Then you can hang out and talk with Jeremy about the
creativity, challenges and the fun of brewing hoppy beers.”

But for all of you homebrewers not lucky enough to be attending the sold-out NHC this year, here is what they provided for the recipe:

96.7% Canadian Rahr 2-Row
3.3% Briess Victory

Note: mash pH adjusted to 5.4 using small charge of acidulated malt
against 2-row portion above (may not be required, depends on water
chemistry and base malt)
13g CaSO4 added to mash

Collect enough volume for 17.8 degrees Plato after boil (depends on %
utilization & brewhouse efficiency)
10% evaporation = about 16.2 Plato concentrating to 17.8 Plato

90 minute boil.
5 grams of CaSO4 added to boil with first hops

On our system most IBU comes from generic super high alpha
(Summit/Nugget/Apollo/Bravo/Columbus/Tomahawk/Zeus) T90
pellets and hop extract at the following ratios:

Pellets: contribute 8.6 lbs. of alpha in 85 BBLS
Supercritical CO2 hop extract: 11 lbs. of alpha in 85 BBLS
Both above added at 90 minutes with CaSO4

Middle addition: 22 lbs. Cascade and 22 Chinook with Whirlfloc (at 40
ppm) at 12 minutes remaining in boil

Whirlpool addition (0 minutes): 44 lbs. Simcoe

% utilization and fermentation losses vary quite a bit from system to
system, so take into consideration

Note of Interest: the bitterness alpha all originally came from Simcoe
but in 2007 (“year of the manufactured shortage”) it had to be re-
placed with the generic high alpha but the difference is negligible…

Aerate to 20 ppm O2 and London Ale pitch at 4 lbs./BBL (thick slurry)
or 18 million cells per ml
An FG of 3.6-3.8 is best to simulate final flavor and alcohol so yeast
viability and vitality is essential
Benefits from long warm rest after yeast removal (“transfer to
secondary”)

Very important: Dry Hop Bill

Columbus: 1.2 lbs./bbl
Simcoe: 0.6 lbs./bbl
Chinook: 0.3 lbs./bbl

**Please carefully evaluate quality of the Columbus as it tends to
vary since it is a commodity hop; we select ours very carefully for this
reason and ignore alpha, strictly aroma considered**

Here are my mock-ups of Homebrew-scale recipes:

All-Grain:
At 70% efficiency
90 minute boil
OG 1.074

14 lbs 2 row
.5 lb Briess Victory
1 oz Nugget at 90 minutes
5.5 ml Hopshot at 60 minutes
0.65 oz Cascade and 0.65 Chinook at 12 min
1.3 oz Simcoe at flameout, wait 10 min before chilling
Pitch yeast starter of y1028 London Ale
Dry hop with .6 oz Columbus, .3 oz Simcoe, .15 oz Chinook

Extract:
90 minute boil
OG 1.074

10.25 lbs Gold Malt Syrup
.5 lb Briess Victory
1.5 oz Nugget at 90 minutes
6.5 ml Hopshot at 60 minutes
0.65 oz Cascade and 0.65 Chinook at 12 min
1.3 oz Simcoe at flameout, wait 10 min before chilling
Pitch yeast starter of y1028 London Ale
Dry hop with .6 oz Columbus, .3 oz Simcoe, .15 oz Chinook

Cheers, and good luck!
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I heard about this....F'ing AWESOME! Good thing I spent about an hour converting the figures from 85bbl to 5 gallon batches...I didn't come across the NB recipe yet, haha.

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Old 05-08-2012, 07:56 AM   #4
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how would u do this without a hopshot?

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The dry hops are off


I get 0.77oz chinook
0.3*16=4.8oz (# converted to oz for bbl dry hop)
31/5=6.2 (31G in BBL divided by 5 gallon batch)
4.8/6.2=0.774


Dry Hops:
0.77oz or 22 grams of chinook...
44G simcoe
88G columbus


i see where you messed up.... you divided the dry hops by 32 rather than 6.2... that would be the correct dry hops for ~1 gallon batches... I've also realized that hopshot is not at all a substitute for supercritical c02 extracts. SC02 extracts have an AA content of about 50% versus the 7-12 in hopshot I chose magnum, but, simcoe seems like a good choice considering whats been said.

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What about mash temps? I hear they mash at 160 for a bit of a sweeter finish.

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What about mash temps? I hear they mash at 160 for a bit of a sweeter finish.
That was on a CYBI episode--they do all their I/PAs at 158-160, according to the podcast I heard.
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This is easily one of my top five beers, but I did pick one up this weekend and it tasted slightly different than usual. I wonder if they have made any changes to their recipe lately?

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I attempted to post this yesterday, not sure why it didn't work. However, I still am questioning NB's homebrew scaled recipe.

I did the calculations and the hop schedule comes out to what NB suggests, other than the dry hop which was also seen and corrected by astrinomical above. With the dry hop additions changed as follows:

.77 oz chinook
1.5 oz simcoe
3 oz columbus

I feel the recipe looks much closer than the initial one NB posted. At a homebrew scale I would probably go a little heavier at the flavor additions as well. I mean after all this is supposed to be a "hop stoopid" beer. I might bump the chinook and cascade addition @12 up to 1 oz each and the simcoe @10 to 2 oz.

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i see where you messed up.... you divided the dry hops by 32 rather than 6.2... that would be the correct dry hops for ~1 gallon batches... I've also realized that hopshot is not at all a substitute for supercritical c02 extracts. SC02 extracts have an AA content of about 50% versus the 7-12 in hopshot I chose magnum, but, simcoe seems like a good choice considering whats been said.
NorthernBrewer did the conversion. I will look this over and change it based on the real numbers.
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