The Great Bottle Opener Giveaway

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Recipes/Ingredients > Lager Help

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 10-07-2011, 02:37 PM   #1
RandomBeerGuy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Tacoma, Wa
Posts: 750
Liked 71 Times on 49 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default Lager Help

So I just completed my first ever "lager", I kept it fermenting/lagering for 5+ weeks or so. I read that using flaked corn would not add any flavors. Well its kegged and carbed. So I decide to have a taste and it is awful! I only used 2 lbs of corn in the mash. The corn flavor is overpowering. Is there any way to tone down the corn flavor outside of adding fruits to mask it? I was thinking of buying hop oil and to try to kill that corn flavor. Any thoughts or suggestions?

__________________

Click'Clack Drink'Drunk - 99.9 KISW The Mens Room
----------------------------------------------------

RandomBeerGuy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2011, 02:46 PM   #2
BenS
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Posts: 833
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 3

Default

I think you're probably tasting DMS. It's a chemical that is created during the boil/fermentation. Once you have it, you're stuck with it. How long did you boil for? Did you keep the boil kettle uncovered? Did you chill quickly? Did you pitch healthy yeast? All these things affect DMS production.

__________________
BenS is online now
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2011, 05:50 PM   #3
RandomBeerGuy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Tacoma, Wa
Posts: 750
Liked 71 Times on 49 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

60 minute boil, kettle was uncovered, chilled with wort chiller until 60F or so, shook and pitched. I did notice the yeast were really slow to start up the temp was 51-49 which they still fermented just really, really, slowly. Looks like hop oil will be used

__________________

Click'Clack Drink'Drunk - 99.9 KISW The Mens Room
----------------------------------------------------

RandomBeerGuy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2011, 06:01 PM   #4
wildwest450
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 9,099
Liked 163 Times on 149 Posts
Likes Given: 4

Default

I would lager before adding stuff in, it will mellow.


_

__________________
wildwest450 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2011, 06:10 PM   #5
DrinkNoH2O
HBT_SUPPORTER.png
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Aliso Viejo, CA
Posts: 555
Liked 33 Times on 23 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

A few general tips on lagers:
-if using any Pilsner malt, boil for 90 mins to drive off DMS
-make a huge starter
-pitch at fermenting temps, ~50*F
-do a diacetyl rest at about 62*F for 24-28 hours once you're about 75% of the way thru fermentation (based on SG)
-rack to secondary after Diacetyl rest and begin lagering
-lager for about 40 days at 35-40* F

I don't know why you'd put corn in your beer. That's what the major companies do to save money, no place for it in a hand crafted beer in my opinion.

__________________
DrinkNoH2O is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2011, 07:11 PM   #6
jthoresen
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Texas
Posts: 62
Default

I've had DMS level diminish before. I think when the CO2 volume increases the level or perceived level of DMS decreases.

__________________
jthoresen is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 10-07-2011, 10:48 PM   #7
RandomBeerGuy
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Sep 2011
Location: Tacoma, Wa
Posts: 750
Liked 71 Times on 49 Posts
Likes Given: 23

Default

Update: So I went to my LHBS and picked up some hop oil. Poured me a glass of the lager in question added the oil and nothing. Smells good but still tasted like corn. So I Drank it, poured another glass. This time adding grapefruit, bam corn flavor gone!, a light hint of grapefruit its pretty neutral. Now it's enjoyable

__________________

Click'Clack Drink'Drunk - 99.9 KISW The Mens Room
----------------------------------------------------

RandomBeerGuy is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Vienna lager with California lager yeast? phenry Recipes/Ingredients 4 09-09-2011 03:12 PM
Dos Equis Lager clone (Off Paper Lager) HackInBlack Recipes/Ingredients 4 11-09-2010 03:53 PM
Recommend a great lager for a first lager brew. zanemoseley Recipes/Ingredients 3 09-21-2010 11:58 AM
Can I lager my lager starter for a week or two if I want to? HangLoose Recipes/Ingredients 1 04-18-2009 12:25 AM
Seeking amber lager/Vienna Lager? ben_j8mmin Recipes/Ingredients 10 08-21-2008 03:21 PM