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boydak 04-12-2009 12:53 PM

Kolsch
 
Found a recipe on Cats Meow and am attempting to makes some slight changes.

Any advise?

5lbs DRME (Briess)
1lb rice syrup solid
1oz Liberty hops (boiling)
1/3oz Saaz (flavor)
2/3oz Saaz (finish
Danstar Munich German Wheat dry yeast

og 1.041
fg 1.010

I changed from LME to DME and using a different yeast.

Beerrific 04-12-2009 01:02 PM

Really you need to use a liquid yeast to produce an authentic Kolsch. If you have no option I think the US-05 would work well, I have no experience with the Danstar yeast.

The hops (flavor and aroma) are a bit excessive in terms of style, but I like a bit of hops in a Kolsch.

The extra-light Briess is a good choice, excellent for this style of beer. You could go all malt and lose the rice solids, but that is up to you.

boo boo 04-12-2009 01:03 PM

Kolsch vital stats... OG 1044 - 1050
FG 1007 - 1011
IBU 20 - 30
SRM 3.5 - 5
ABV 4.4 - 5.2%

Over all it don't look too bad.

boydak 04-12-2009 01:24 PM

I have never used liquid yeast before. It calls for Wyeast 1007. I will add it to my order and give it a shot.

Also never used rice. Maybe add another pount of DME?

boo boo 04-12-2009 01:35 PM

I have never tried that dry yeast you posted but have used the WY1007 and it isn't very flocculent. You'll probably need to lager it for it to drop out unless you are into finning your brews.

I would drop the rice and go with more Dme to bump up my OG.

Poobah58 04-12-2009 01:43 PM

A Kolsch has no rice and does not use a wheat yeast! Liberty hops is also out of style.
BTW, that Cats Meow site has some really horrible recipes. Gotta be careful...

Hokie 04-12-2009 02:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Poobah58 (Post 1256536)
A Kolsch has no rice and does not use a wheat yeast! Liberty hops is also out of style.
BTW, that Cats Meow site has some really horrible recipes. Gotta be careful...

Yeah, I gotta agree with the style issues. It looks like just about everything in that recipe is not to style for a kolsch. You're probably better off calling it a light hybrid ale instead.

anderj 04-12-2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hokie (Post 1256572)
Yeah, I gotta agree with the style issues. It looks like just about everything in that recipe is not to style for a kolsch. You're probably better off calling it a light hybrid ale instead.

+1, no wheat yeast for sure, all noble hops, no rice but maybe a touch of wheat (0-10%)
German ale yeast works well and is less powdery
-ander

Beerrific 04-12-2009 03:06 PM

I think the Liberty will work just fine. Liberty is an American cultivar of Hallertauer Mittelfrüh which is very much to style in a Kolsch.

The Wyeast 1007 is not a wheat yeast, it is the German Ale yeast and is from Zum Uerige so it is an Alt yeast. I doubt highly that if you make an excellent Kolsch with that yeast there are very few people that would say in a blind taste-test "Ah, you made that with an Alt yeast, it isn't a Kolsch."
But, if you are going to go liquid, then my personal preference is the WLP029 from White Labs. Wyeast also makes a Kolsch yeast, 2565, which I did not like as much.

boydak 04-12-2009 03:47 PM

All right I think I will go with the WLP029, forget the rice and add more DME.

If Cats Meow is not good any suggestions for other places to look?


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