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Old 05-03-2010, 03:36 PM   #1
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Default The Jamil Show--Tasty's SN Celebration Clone

This is taken from an old episode of The Jamil Show for American IPA. Tasty was invited to the show and gave his Sierra Nevada Celebration AleClone.


For 12 US Gallons

OG 1066
FG 1017-1018
SRM 14
80 IBUs

65% efficiency

90 minute boil

28 lbs US 2-row 82.4%
2 lbs carapils 5.9%
2 lbs crystal 60 5.9%
1 lb crystal 120 2.9%
1 lb munich 2.9%

WLP001. Ferment 68-69 increasing to 73-74 at the tail end of fermentation/dry hopping. Ferment for 3 weeks.

Mash at 153-154F

1.5oz chinook 11%AA mash hop
1oz chinook at 60min
4oz centennial at 9%AA at 15min
4oz cascade whole at 6.7%AA at 5min
4oz cascade whole in hopback
2oz cascade pellets dry hop for two weeks
2oz centennial pellets dry hop for two weeks
2oz chinook pellets dry hop for two weeks


Tasty dry hops once it is bubbling every 10-15seconds

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Old 08-12-2010, 06:24 PM   #2
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A brewer from Sierra Nevada was recently interviewed on The Session and gave the recipe for Celebration. Tasty was remarkably close.

Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Boil Size: 8.19 gal
Estimated OG: 1.068
Estimated FG: 1.015
Estimated Color: 13.0 SRM
Estimated IBU: 68.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
13 lbs 13.2 ozPale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 87.98 %
1 lbs 14.2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 12.02 %
28.97 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
14.92 gm Centennial [9.70 %] (Dry Hop 3 days) Hops -
29.14 gm Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 49.3 IBU
46.57 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (15 min) Hops 8.9 IBU
29.14 gm Centennial [9.70 %] (15 min) Hops 9.8 IBU
21.95 gm Centennial [9.70 %] (0 min) Hops -
35.12 gm Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -
1 Pkgs California Ale (White Labs #WLP001) Yeast-Ale

Mash at 156F.

Ferment starting at 62F and ramp it up to 68F

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It was stated that the mash is conducted at 156F. The fermentation starts at 62F and is allowed to rise to 68F, no higher. FG is around 3.8 Plato or 1.015.

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Old 08-12-2010, 09:10 PM   #4
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It was stated that the mash is conducted at 156F. The fermentation starts at 62F and is allowed to rise to 68F, no higher. FG is around 3.8 Plato or 1.015.
That is correct. It was in my post, but my internet timed out a few times and somehow that was lost. Thanks for the help.

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Wondering how you calculated the hops. I wrote down the numbers as I listened and with my math I come up with something different. I only listened to it all once, so perhaps I misheard some things, but this is what I have from the interview:

for a 100 bbl batch:
25 lbs Chinook for bittering --> 22g for 6 gal
20 lbs Centennial @ 10-15 min --> 18g
40 lbs Cascade @ 10-15 min --> 35g
20 lbs Centennial @ 0 min --> 18g
40 lbs Cascade @ 0 min --> 35g
17 lbs Centennial @ DH --> 15g
33 lbs Cascade @ DH --> 29g

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I'm virtually certain that the grain bill on this recipe will make for a significantly darker beer than Celebration. I brewed a 6 gallon clone attempt with 2-row as base, 1 lb. of C-60, and .25 lb. C-120 (i.e. same C-60 & half the C-120 Tasty's recipe uses), which came in around 12 SRM, and even it was darker than Celebration in a side-by-side comparison. I'm sure Tasty's recipe would be totally yummy, but I'd be surprised if it really worked as a clone. Even with the smaller amount of C-120 that I used, it had a stronger dark crystal (raisiny) taste to it. I noticed that the SN website says they use English Crystal, so next time I try this I'm considering 2-row base, .75 lbs. light carastan, & .75 UK dark crystal (~77L). There's a recipe circulating in a thread here at HBT (Dude's SNCA clone, maybe?), that seemed to nail the color with a 10 SRM grain bill. Obviously, I'm not the brewer Tasty is...just wondering about the clone-ishness of this particular interpretation.

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In that episode he does say that it was originally brewed to be a clone, but he did not say that it was in fact a clone. Maybe this recipe was his first shot at cloning SNCA, but it came out not a clone but still really great so he kept it as a standard IPA in his recipe book?

I have this particular recipe on tap right now...its absolutely delicious.

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Oh God! do I love Celebration Ale..hope to see it on shelves soon. or in my kegs..

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maybe I misheard but I swear he said 1/2lb per bbl for dry hopping and 2:1 ratio.
so for a 6 gal batch:
8oz/31.5gal = 0.254oz per gallon
0.254oz x 6 gallon = 1.52oz of centennial
1.52oz x 2 = 3.04oz of cascade

Does that sound right?

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maybe I misheard but I swear he said 1/2lb per bbl for dry hopping and 2:1 ratio.
so for a 6 gal batch:
8oz/31.5gal = 0.254oz per gallon
0.254oz x 6 gallon = 1.52oz of centennial
1.52oz x 2 = 3.04oz of cascade

Does that sound right?

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I took him to mean a 1/2 lb per barrel total of the two combined, with a 2:1 ration which is what I have above (17 lbs and 33 lbs for 100 bbl batch)
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