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everty2007 06-16-2012 12:17 PM

Imperial IPA hop advice
 
Last weekend I stopped at the Leinenkugels brewery in WI. They had an imperial IPA that I really liked. They state it has 5 hops and I have never brewed an IPA yet and need some thoughts or advice to get me started. I listed the general ingredients below according to their website they state the IBUs come out to an 80. Any suggestions on the order to add these hops and est amounts for a 5 gallon batch? I have only used cascade prior so don't know much about the others.


Malts:
Munich, Caramel and Pale Ale


Hops:
Warrior, Cascade, SimcoeŽ, AmarilloŽ and CitraŽ

tdogg 06-16-2012 12:55 PM

As a general rule of thumb for IPA's, I use one large dose of hops (probably warrior) at the begginning of the boil to get about 80-90% of the total IBU's. then add more hops at 5 minute initervals for the last 15-20 min. make sure to add at least an ounce in the last minute or two.

Hopefully someone who has tried the Liney's IPA can chime in and be more specific. One option: blend the cascade, simcoe, amarillo and citra together and divide into 1 oz blend portions. use these for your late additions.

Dont forget to dry hop!

tdogg 06-16-2012 01:03 PM

Two questions:

Do you know the OG of the beer?

Do you brew all grain or extract?

everty2007 06-17-2012 03:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tdogg
Two questions:

Do you know the OG of the beer?

Do you brew all grain or extract?

It says it is 8.9% ABV

I recently started all grain and think I'll be doing this one as an all grain. But I do both

tdogg 06-17-2012 04:09 AM

As i noted before, I havent had this beer yet, but here's a wild stab at it. I based the grain and hop bills off of a IIPA I did recently, and the info on the Liney's website.


Style: Imperial IPA
TYPE: All Grain

Recipe Specifications
--------------------------
Boil Size: 7.04 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.50 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.50 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.10 gal
Estimated OG: 1.082 SG
Estimated Color: 9.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 79.5 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 81.8 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
------------
Amt Name Type # %/IBU
14 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Ale Malt 2-Row (Briess) (3.5 SRM) Grain 1 85.5 %
2 lbs Munich 10L (Briess) (10.0 SRM) Grain 2 11.6 %
8.0 oz Crystal, Medium (Simpsons) (55.0 SRM) Grain 3 2.9 %
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - First Wort 60.0 min Hop 4 14.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 36.9 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 6 3.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 7 7.9 IBUs
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 8 7.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 6.4 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Boil 2.0 min Hop 10 2.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Citra [12.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 0.0 Days Hop 13 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Light Body, No Mash Out
Total Grain Weight: 17 lbs 4.0 oz


mash low and long, use a clean american yeast. maybe 2 packs of US-05?

everty2007 06-17-2012 11:13 AM

Thanks the numbers look in the right ball park.

You noted mash low and long, what do you recommend?

For dry hopping, this would go into the secondary I believe not the keg (seen both done), how long in the secondary the whole time?

Last question for now... Do you do anything for sanitation for dry hopping, never attempted it yet.

Sorry for all the questions very new to all grain just trying to learn. Thanks for the help cheers!

tdogg 06-18-2012 03:13 PM

For the mash, I would probably do 148-150 for at least one hour. I test to see if conversion is done with iodine. I like the low mash temp on big ipas so they get nive and dry.

My preferred method of dry hopping is to sanitize a large muslin bag, add sanitized weights (ss washers work great) add leaf hops and tie up. Put in a keg and rack beer into keg for about 2 weeks. No need to sanitize the hops.

Dr1nkBeer 06-18-2012 03:40 PM

Man thats a lot of hops.... I usually do...
1oz 60 min top of boil and add 1oz every 15 min. And then either put one more oz at 5 min. Left or put it in the secondary...

Though my IPA's have been labeled more in the style of ESB... I may try to move the additions to the last 15 minutes and add it every 5 minutes??? That may move the profile away from a bitter slightly no?

tdogg 06-18-2012 11:06 PM

8 oz is alot of hops, but when it comes to big IPA's the sky is the limit. Check out clone recipes for "maharaja" and "pliny the elder" if you think I'm kidding.

The hop schedule that I put on there is VERY similar to a 8.4% IPA I recently made with all 7C's hops (hop blend of cascade, citra, centennial, columbus, etc). I have made IPA's with small hop additions at around 30-40 min, but I tend to get a better product with the schedule I listed above. YMMV

If i were going to brew this (without knowing more about the beer), I would leave the warrior addition where it is, and blend all of the other hops together in a big bowl. then divide the blend into 1 oz portions and use the hop blend for flavor/aroma/dry hop additions. My $.02

everty2007 06-19-2012 08:38 AM

Thanks for the suggestions on this, I'm gonna get the recipe squared away and get my ingredients to hopefully brew this in July. Tdogg I'll PM you if it turns out maybe I can send the real with our version. Thanks again for the advice. I'll keep you posted through this thread.


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