Imperial IPA

discgolfin · 06-17-2008, 01:31 AM

Have a few hops that I wanted to use so I figured a big IPA would work..thoughts or suggestions:

10# 2 row
5# MO
1# victory
.5 60L
.5 cara
1oz Chinook FWH
1oz Chinook 45 min
1oz Centennial 20 min
1oz Williamette 20 min
1oz Centennial 10 min
1oz Williamette 10 min
1oz Centennial 5 min
1oz Williamette 5 min
1 oz Cascade secondary DH 7 days
1oz Williamette secondary DH 7 days
1oz of Cascade and Williamette in keg dry hop
S O5 yeast Mash 153

IBU 93.6..hoping to have a decent malt backbone with some MO..I have tons of williamette and centennial and wanted to give them a shot together..should be interesting..anyone try them together?

This should be a big beer both in malt, abv 7.5%, and plenty of hops!!

J

sirsloop · 06-17-2008, 01:55 AM

I'd double the 60L and add around .5lbs of wheat... thats a lot of hops to balance out.

**SporkD2** · 06-17-2008, 01:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sirsloop

I'd double the 60L and add around .5lbs of wheat... thats a lot of hops to balance out.

Being new to AG could you explain the logic behind this? I just dont have any idea what this would fix or change. Thanks

sirsloop · 06-17-2008, 02:04 AM

wheat will add a little head retention to that high alcohol brew and you're gonna need some malt to balance out all of those hops. I recently made a brew with 1# 120L, 1# wheat, and .5# special b... and its only got ~72Ibu's.

**Poobah58** · 06-17-2008, 12:17 PM

Don't think you need the 45 minute hop addition. Not crazy about Chinook but it's your beer. I would also dry hop 2-3 weeks and add the keg hops a week or two after you tap (if it lasts that long).

discgolfin · 06-17-2008, 02:36 PM

I like Chinook..but I have columbus as well. I could do 2 oz FWH..I have cara in for head retention and will think about a full # of 60..that might be a bit more than I want but we shall see.

Jay

tagz · 06-17-2008, 02:56 PM

that beer is going to be like liquid gold. i suggest you make a hefe and send the rest of those hops to me.

PseudoChef · 06-17-2008, 02:59 PM

IMO, from reading things on the best IIPAs out there, you don't want a busy grainbill. You want it dry and hoppy.

Not to say it's the end all be all (and I've never even had it, but it has its reputation for a reason) but Pliny the Elder is just 2-row and crystal with corn sugar. Pliny the Younger is just 2-row and corn sugar as the main fermentables.

I would keep your Caramel additions as they are, and maybe even cut them down some.

I did this one in the same mindset and got it to finish at 1.017. It needed more hops, but it pleased some judges and me.

Also, drink young! 6 months later and the one I mentioned has dimished to mere IPA status as the hops have faded considerably.

discgolfin · 06-17-2008, 03:20 PM

I think my grain bill is close to yours!! I wanted a more complex hop than malt..but I did want some malt to hold up to the hops just a bit..but not like a barley wine..I think .5 # of 60 should be good..I see nothing wrong with both 2 row and MO..I think MO is great for IPA's so why not for a IIPA?

I agree the 45 min is a waste and will probably go with 2 oz at FWH and see what the IBU's will be. I could use wheat but the .5# of cara will do the job as well.

Jay

**Brewpastor** · 06-17-2008, 04:02 PM

I approach IIPA differently then your recipe suggests. I think this beer should be all about hops. I have two recipes below, one has over 200 IBUs, the other is over 300. I like the gravity to be in the 1.080 range, with a low mash in the range of 148. I use sugar to dry it out even more. I don't make these like Pale Ales or even regular IPAs. I I want the malt to be dry, with no more then about 2% CRYSTAL because I don't want the beer to be sweet and know the alcohol will be perceived as sweetness. I have come to prefer Cal Ale yeast because of it characteristics. These recipes are 20 and 15 gallon recipes.

Preaching in Hell
A ProMash Recipe Report
Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 20.00 Wort Size (Gal): 20.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 61.00
Anticipated OG: 1.08390 Plato: 20.204
Anticipated SRM: 7.8
Anticipated IBU: 265.1
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
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82.0 50.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) Great Britain 1.03800 3
11.5 7.00 lbs. Pilsener Germany 1.03800 2
4.9 3.00 lbs. Candi Sugar (clear) Generic 1.04600 1
1.6 1.00 lbs. Crystal 60L America 1.03400 60
Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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453.60 g. Columbus Pellet 14.80 249.3 60 min.
141.75 g. Columbus Pellet 15.00 15.8 10 min.
141.75 g. Columbus Pellet 15.00 0.0 0 min.
141.75 g. Columbus Pellet 15.00 0.0 Dry Hop

Yeast
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WYeast 1187 Ringwood Ale

3-2008 IIPA
A ProMash Recipe Report
Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (Gal): 15.00 Wort Size (Gal): 15.00
Total Grain (Lbs): 53.00
Anticipated OG: 1.08559 Plato: 20.581
Anticipated SRM: 9.1
Anticipated IBU: 309.7
Brewhouse Efficiency: 65 %
Wort Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential SRM
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
94.3 50.00 lbs. Pale Malt(2-row) America 1.03600 2
1.9 1.00 lbs. Crystal 120L America 1.03300 120
3.8 2.00 lbs. Cane Sugar Generic 1.04621 0
Potential represented as SG per pound per gallon.

Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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500.00 g. Centennial Pellet 10.50 258.1 60 min.
500.00 g. Centennial Pellet 10.50 51.6 10 min.
500.00 g. Centennial Pellet 10.50 0.0 0 min.

Yeast
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White Labs WLP001 California Ale