IIPA help

TechyDork · 04-21-2009, 08:37 PM

I am planning to brew an IIPA later tonight, but i am a bit torn on how to use my inventory of hops. i love a very hopy aroma and flavor.

i have the following hops in my inventory, and can't just run out and add to my stash.
4 oz Chinook
2 oz Mt Hood
2 oz Amarillo
2 oz Cascade (might exchange with my brew buddy for 2 oz chinook as i should have bought him Cascade

)

here is my current plan:

Type: Extract
Date: 4/21/2009
Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 3.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
11 lbs Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 84.62 %
2 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 15.38 %
4.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 83.4 IBU
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (30 min) Hops 13.6 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 6.8 IBU
1.00 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (3 min) Hops 1.2 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs Burton Ale (White Labs #WLP023) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.081 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.021 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.80 %
Bitterness: 104.9
Est Color: 13.8 SRM

I am thinking that if i end up giving up my Cascade then i might add the other 1 oz of MT Hood to the boil for 30 min, or i might use the Mt Hood for the dry hop and boil 1oz of Amarillo for 30 min. Does anyone have any thoughts on how these changes might affect the final product? Am i on the right track with this, or am i crazy. Feel free to offer any ideas on how you would change things as far as use of hops and boil times..

cheers

**BierMuncher** · 04-21-2009, 09:24 PM

Looks pretty good.

There’s a difference between a tongue scrapingly bitter IIPA and an IIPA that isn’t so bitter but is loaded with hop flavor and aroma (Pliny the Elder comes to mind).

If it were my recipe, I might take some of those Chinook hops and shorten their boil time.

Maybe 2 ounces for 60 and then all other additions at 30 minutes or less at 5 minute increments.

I’d also take your dry hops up to 3-4 ounces if you can.

Just my two cents. But it does look like an inviting start.

TechyDork · 04-21-2009, 10:33 PM

I was curious how bitter this would be, so i think i will scale back this one more and see how it turns out.

what are your thoughts on this..

11 lbs Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 84.62 %
2 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 15.38 %
1.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 31.3 IBU
1.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (30 min) Hops 24.0 IBU
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (25 min) Hops 12.3 IBU
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (20 min) Hops 16.5 IBU
1.00 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (10 min) Hops 3.5 IBU
1 Pkgs Burton Ale (White Labs #WLP023) Yeast-Ale

Bitterness: 87.6 IBU

and maybe a dry hop with 2oz Amarillo and 1 oz Mt Hood for 7 days.

thanks for taking the time to coach a rookie.

Jmac · 04-22-2009, 02:46 AM

I am a noob but this is what I would do.. I would keep the Cascades!! I think keeping the Cascades will help with the 'flavor and aroma" that you are looking for.

1.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 31.3 IBU
1.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (20 min) Hops 24.0 IBU
1.00 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (10 min) Hops 3.5 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 12.3 IBU
1.00 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (0 min) Hops 3.5 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (0 min) Hops 16.5 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop) Hops 16.5 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop) Hops 12.3 IBU

Something like this anyway.. Since you say you like "flavor and aroma" using late hop additions will assist with this. Also, from my understanding everyone loves the aroma of Amarillo so you don't want to put it in at 30 as you would lose a lot of the aroma..

**BierMuncher** · 04-22-2009, 03:16 AM

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Originally Posted by BeerIsGood4Me

what are your thoughts on this..

I like that better.

But Jmac is right. There's nothing better than some cascade in the dry hop.

Either way...you'll be splitting hairs at this point.

I say get on with the brew and it will be awesome.

Jmac · 04-22-2009, 03:22 AM

I have a pound of Amarillo, Magnum and Perle on the way from hopsdirect.com.. I also have Cent, Cascade and Simcoe in the freezer!! I cant wait to try something similar!!!

I hop your beer turns out great!!

TechyDork · 04-22-2009, 04:13 AM

OK i am off to brew, i will post my recipe tomorrow after i figure it out tonight

Wish me hops of good luck!!

TechyDork · 04-22-2009, 04:24 PM

Ok, so here is how she ended up. I cut the hops back a bit more,

Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 3.00 gal
Boil Time: 60 min

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
10 lbs Pale Liquid Extract (8.0 SRM) Extract 83.33 %
2 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 16.67 %
1.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 34.8 IBU
.5oz Chinook [13.00 %] (20 min) Hops 14.1 IBU
1.0 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (20 min) Hops 3.0 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (10 min) Hops 11.0 IBU
0.75 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (10 min) Hops 2.7 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (10 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
0.75 oz Mt. Hood [6.00 %] (10 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep) Hops -
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 10.0 min) Misc
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs Burton Ale (White Labs #WLP023) Yeast-Ale

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.074 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.020
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.09 %
Bitterness: 68.4
IBUEst Color: 13.2 SRM

**BierMuncher** · 04-22-2009, 06:00 PM

Now you're talking.

TechyDork · 04-22-2009, 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BierMuncher

Now you're talking.

Thanks for all your tips while i was working this one out. What do you think of the dry hops,

1 oz cascade
2 oz amarillo (i really like the aroma of the amarillo)

should i up the cascade in the dry hop or would that be to much? I am trying to learn exactly what to expect from dry hopping as far as added flavor and aromas.