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Old 02-11-2013, 12:44 AM   #1
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Any thoughts on this IIPA All Grain Recipe? (EDITED)

Briess 2 Row 14 lbs, 4oz
Briess 2 Row Caramel 40 12 oz
Briess 2 Row 80 8 oz
Briess 2 Row Carapils 4 oz
Chinook Pellets 1.5 oz @ FWH
Warrior Pellets 2.75 oz @ 90 mins
Chinook Pellets .5 oz @ 90 mins
Columbus Pellets 1 oz @ 30 mins
Simcoe Pellets 1 oz @ 0 mins
Centennial Pellets 2.25 oz @ 0 mins
Simcoe Pellets 1.75 oz @ Dry
Centennial Pellets 1.75 oz @ Dry
Columbus Pellets 1.75 oz @ Dry

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Old 02-11-2013, 02:00 AM   #2
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I think I'd maybe up the carapils to 1/2 - 1 lb. I would revamp your hop schedule a bit too. I think your bittering addition is a bit heavy and you're a little light in the flavor additions. I would add a few ounces of something around 10-15 min to boost the hop flavor

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Old 02-11-2013, 02:12 AM   #3
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That's an extract recipe, not all grain?

If it's extract, I'd replace some of the extract with corn sugar to lighten the body and have it finish a bit drier. Cut some of the crystal- with the crystal 80L, 40L, and carapils, it's too much. I'd cut the 80L out completely, and probably the carapils also.

With that much warrior, it'll be bitter. Like take the enamel off of your teeth bitter, with the FWH chinook (and how do you FWH an extract batch?). There are too many bittering hops, and not enough flavor and aroma hops. I'd spread them out a little, and reduce the bittering charges. I'd also never do a 90 minute boil for an extract batch.

I'd hop more like this:
Warrior Pellets 1 oz @ 60 mins (or to around 40 IBUs with this addition)
1 oz chinook at 15 minutes
1 oz collumbus at 10 minutes
1 oz simcoe at 5 minutes
1 oz centennial flame out
1 oz chinook flame out
dryhop with any of the above (3 ounces)

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Old 02-11-2013, 08:26 AM   #4
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13.4 lbs Briess Malt 2-row in place of the LME....sorry pasted the extract version.

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I agree with Yooper 100% on taking out Crystal 80 and Carapils completely. IIPA is about showcasing hops. Also agree with corn sugar. 1 pound should do. Nice gravity boost. Yooper also gives a good example of a decent hop schedule. Taking that hop schedule, and the fact that you intended on FWH'ing, maybe FWH with .75 oz Centennial. Should give you a total around 100 IBU.

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Toss the C80, simplify your early bittering schedule, and make a starter with healthy Cali ale liquid yeast.

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Leprechaun's Revenge
Imperial IPA
Type: All Grain
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal Brewer: Gregg Carney
Boil Size: 8.20 gal
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: Pot and Cooler (10 Gal/37.8 L) - All Grain
End of Boil Volume 6.50 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 4.50 gal Est Mash Efficiency 85.7 %
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0

Ingredients
13 lbs 4.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 84.1 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 7.9 %
4.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3 1.6 %
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - First Wort 30.0 min Hop 4 15.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 18.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 6 39.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 28.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 18.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 14.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 7.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Aroma Steep 30.0 min Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Aroma Steep 30.0 min Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
2.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml] Yeast 13 -
1 lbs Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 14 6.3 %
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 16 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 17 0.0 IBUs

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.082 SG Measured Original Gravity: 0.000 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 9.1 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: -75.8 %
Bitterness: 143.6 IBUs Calories: 34.4 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 8.4 SRM

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Leprechaun's Revenge
Imperial IPA
Type: All Grain
: Gregg Carney
Boil Size: 8.20 gal
Boil Time: 90 min Equipment: Pot and Cooler (10 Gal/37.8 L) - All Grain
End of Boil Volume 6.50 gal Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Final Bottling Volume: 4.50 gal Est Mash Efficiency 85.7 %
Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage Taste Rating(out of 50): 30.0

Ingredients
13 lbs 4.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 84.1 %
1 lbs 4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 2 7.9 %
4.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 3 1.6 %
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - First Wort 30.0 min Hop 4 15.8 IBUs
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 18.7 IBUs
1.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - Boil 45.0 min Hop 6 39.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 28.8 IBUs
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Boil 15.0 min Hop 8 18.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Boil 10.0 min Hop 9 14.6 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 10 7.5 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Aroma Steep 30.0 min Hop 11 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - Aroma Steep 30.0 min Hop 12 0.0 IBUs
2.0 pkg Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) [50.28 ml] Yeast 13 -
1 lbs Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 14 6.3 %
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 15 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 16 0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - Dry Hop 5.0 Days Hop 17 0.0 IBUs

Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.082 SG Measured Original Gravity: 0.000 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.013 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.010 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 9.1 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: -75.8 %
Bitterness: 143.6 IBUs Calories: 34.4 kcal/12oz
Est Color: 8.4 SRM

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Boil Size: 8.20 gal
End of Boil Volume 6.50 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal
Final Bottling Volume: 4.50 gal


Is that how your system actually works, or are you guesstimating? That's almost a 50% loss from kettle start to bottle!! For all of that work, I would shoot for 5.0 to 5.5 gallons bottled. This shouldn't be impossible if your start boil volume is over 8 gallons.

I don't see 1.6% carapils doing much for you. For the sake of 2-3% less crystal, why don't you add 2-3% more carapils? It will give you some body without the toasty caramel sweetness. Thinning an IIPA from 1.082 down to 1.013 or less will require some body so it doesn't feel so lifeless.

Lastly, move early Chinook to 45 or 30 and use your Warrior at 90. Your recipe seems to be based on 90 minutes anyway. Chinook has more character, and Warrior has better bittering potential. You'll need those extra IBUs with 1.082 OG. I would also skip FWH and go with a huge 2-3 oz. bitter. A mere 1/2 oz. FWH is going to do nothing for this beer. This is a big beer. I would boost the dryhop to = 1 oz. dryhops per gallon of beer.
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