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Old 06-05-2012, 05:56 PM   #1
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Default I will build your IPA/IIPA (Part 2)

My Rules:

*Must brew via a full-volume boil
*Must make a yeast starter (Unless you want a Session IPA)
*Must be able to ferment in the 60's (F)
*No SMaSH brews

Please answer the following:

*All-Grain, Partial-Mash, or Extract?
*If All-Grain, what is your estimated efficiency?
*Boil time? In minutes.
*Will you rack to secondary?
*Hop Pellets or Leaf?
*What is your start boil volume in gallons?
*What is your end batch volume in gallons?
*What is your desired alcohol content?
*What is your desired hop aroma, i.e. Citrusy, Fruity, Tropical, Dank/Marijuana, Floral, Earthy, Spicy, Piney?
*Do you want to use a specific varietal of hops? If so, what kind?
*Do you want to use a specific type of fermentable? If so, what kind?
*Do you want to use a specific type of yeast? If so, what kind?
*Do you want to avoid using any specific ingredients? If so, what kind?
*Do you want to stick with an American 2-row base?
*Do you want an IPA or IIPA?
*Do you want a malty IPA/IIPA?
*Do you want to stick to a certain amount of theoretical IBUs? Please give range.
*Do you want a thin, moderate, or full body?
*Do you want a dry, moderate, or sweet taste?
*Do you think an IPA/IIPA should be "balanced", and what is "balance" to you?
*Is beer color important to you? Please describe what color you desire.
*Please list a few of your favorite IPA/IIPAs.

Original thread can be seen here: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/i-wi...a-iipa-322573/
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Old 06-05-2012, 06:51 PM   #2
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Glad to see this continuing. Very helpful!

Here's one for you:
All grain, 80% eff.
No secondary.
Amarillo pellets, all else whole cone.
6.5g preboil, 5.5 post
ABV don't care, II/I PA don't care
Citrus, fruity, with a bit of earthy spice. No dank, no floral, minimal pine.
Amarillo, Citra, Cascade in mind, but also have C-bus, EKG, Willamette, Bravo, Vanguard, Legacy
Munich base, maybe some wheat. Love melanoidin malt.
2565 Kölsch yeast
Malty, low IBU
Balance?: For a comp or "true to style", no; hop spotlight. For me, yes - I don't like bitterness...I like a solid malt presence, relatively dry, with huge hop flavor & aroma, but not mouth-hurts bitterness.
Don't care about color.
I love Grand Teton Brewing Company's hoppy beers - Lost Continent DIPA, Sweetgrass APA.

PS - I won't be offended if you don't want to create this "balanced" not-really-an-IPA recipe.

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Old 06-05-2012, 08:01 PM   #3
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Not quite the way I typically brew my IPAs, but I think this will be tasty nonetheless. Amarillo is a little floral; If you want to sub it for Cascade, be my guest.

http://hopville.com/recipe/1420870/a...e-bette-midler

P.S. - I will be naming all of these recipes after random celebrities. There is no pattern. Just making things easier

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Love it. Thanks! Agreed - that looks really tasty! Perfect for the beach (Bette Midler pun, haha).

Hopstand with Vanguard? I like it - what's the reasoning there?

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It will provide an earthy/spicy counter-point to the citrusy/fruity dryhop... just as you asked.

You could sub Willamette there if desired for a similar effect.

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Awesome. That looks fantastic. I'm planning to brew in 2 weeks or so...I will report back. Thank you.

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Read back through your first posts & also love this idea. My twist on whatever you come up with will be to create a Partial-Mash Pale using the final runnings from the mash, I'm hoping with a large grainbill there should be plenty of sugars left to combine with some DME for a light ~4.5ABV Session Ale. Also hoping I can pull out some of the later additions from the IIPA to bitter up the Session.

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All-Grain,
estimated efficiency...mash: 85%, overall (beersmith): 67%
60 or 90min boil
Prefer not to secondary (b/c i usually dry-hop in primary)
Prefer Hop Pellets, LHBS makes the rules
Start Boil Volume = up to 13gallons
End batch volume = 9gallons
Desired Alcohol of 7-9%
Desired hop aroma, i.e. Citrusy & Floral Nose & Taste along with hints of Spicy/Piney.
No Specific Varities of hops desired.
No Specific Fermentables
Prefer White Labs Liquid Yeast, I have alot of Cali V, but also enjoy East Coast, American, and Reg Cali. Wouldnt be opposed to english or london ale either.
Dont need to avoid specific ingredients
Dont need to specifically use 2-row. 6row, Marris & Pils also all acceptable
Looking for an IIPA
Looking for a slight-medium malty IIPA?
IBUs anywhere from 80-130
Moderate body
Moderate taste
I do think an IIPA should be balanced, it should have ample or heavy aroma, but not something with taste-bud killing bitterness, there should be a good malty backbone to smooth out the beer.
Color is prefered to be in the copper/ dark tan region, an SRM between 6-12,
Favorite IIPAs include Green Flash Imperial, Firestone Walker DoubleJack and Oskar Blues GUBNA.

Thank you in advance Bob! Also if there are 1-2 you have already crafted for others on Hopville that you think I might like, please let me know as I will probably be brewing 2-3 IPA/IIPAs over the summer.

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Okay this sounds like a great way to get a new IPA recipe.

Here we go:

All-grain
Mash: 74% Brewhouse: 67%
60 or 90 min. boil
I usually only rack to secondary for dry-hopping, which I love in IPAs
Leaf hops
7.5 gallons for 60 min. boil, 8.12 gallons for 90 min. boil
5.5 gallons end batch volume
7-8% abv
I like floral, dank/marijuana, and citrusy hops aromas. I like fruity and spicy hop flavor in addition to the three mentioned in the aroma answer beforehand. I really like to smell the beer the instant the cap comes off. I guess what I like it a complex and heavy hop flavor and aroma.
I have Nugget, Columbus, Cascade, N. Brewer, Willamette, and E. Kent Goldings
No specific fermentables
I prefer to use Wyeast liquid yeast, but I can get pretty much any variety.
No specific ingredients to avoid
I have Briess 2-row or Great Western Pale Ale Malt, but could get any base malt
I would like an IPA
60-80 IBUs
Moderate body
Dry taste
I think an IPA should be in balance according to style. I believe this means a firm hop bitterness, lots of hop flavor, and lots of hop aroma.
The color is not that important to me, I am all about flavor. I do not want a brown or black IPA though, so probably the upper limit would be somewhere around 15 SRM.
My favorite IPA/IIPAs are Bell's Hopslam, Southern Tier Unearthly IIPA, Bell's Two Hearted Ale, Short's Huma Lupa Licious, Founder's Centennial IPA, Stone Ruination.


Thanks for the recipe work. It will be greatly appreciated and very interesting to see what you come up with.

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All-Grain,
estimated efficiency...mash: 85%, overall (beersmith): 67%
60 or 90min boil
Prefer not to secondary (b/c i usually dry-hop in primary)
Prefer Hop Pellets, LHBS makes the rules
Start Boil Volume = up to 13gallons
End batch volume = 9gallons
Desired Alcohol of 7-9%
Desired hop aroma, i.e. Citrusy & Floral Nose & Taste along with hints of Spicy/Piney.
No Specific Varities of hops desired.
No Specific Fermentables
Prefer White Labs Liquid Yeast, I have alot of Cali V, but also enjoy East Coast, American, and Reg Cali. Wouldnt be opposed to english or london ale either.
Dont need to avoid specific ingredients
Dont need to specifically use 2-row. 6row, Marris & Pils also all acceptable
Looking for an IIPA
Looking for a slight-medium malty IIPA?
IBUs anywhere from 80-130
Moderate body
Moderate taste
I do think an IIPA should be balanced, it should have ample or heavy aroma, but not something with taste-bud killing bitterness, there should be a good malty backbone to smooth out the beer.
Color is prefered to be in the copper/ dark tan region, an SRM between 6-12,
Favorite IIPAs include Green Flash Imperial, Firestone Walker DoubleJack and Oskar Blues GUBNA.
This recipe fits about 95% of your parameters:

http://hopville.com/recipe/1422590/i...-wesley-snipes
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This recipe fits about 95% of your parameters:

http://hopville.com/recipe/1422590/i...-wesley-snipes

Very much appreciated sir!

I forgot to mention I have the ability to whirlpool in my kettle. Being a big Firestone Walker fan I have been trying to mimick some of their techniques.

Looks like for the Wesley Snipes I would just be whirlpooling (180deg) these?
post-boil 30 mins 1.0oz Amarillo
post-boil 30 mins 2.0oz Centennial
post-boil 30 mins 1.0oz Citra

My second question is, I have never understood the advantages of doing 15-10-5 minute additions seperately, what does the beer gain from this over say just adding all 3 at 10minutes?

I will be brewing it as per your specs, just figured since your the expert & all I would ask.

Thanks again Bob!
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