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Old 01-26-2007, 09:56 PM   #1
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OK, doing a smaller beer this weekend, haven't finalized the plans but shooting for a brown ale with an OG around 1050 or so, not too hoppy, just 60 minute and flameout additions. Fuggles at flameout, haven't decided bittering yet. Prolly 20-25 IBUs.

Want kind of a nutty, toasty flavor. Mashing a little high (shoot for prolly 156) for some body and sweetness. Looking for some feedback on the specialty grains:

* Got two pounds of malt that I toasted at 350 for 35 minutes.
* Got a half pound of carapils for some more body
* 3/4 pound of chocolate malt; no roast, no BP, nothing else dark. Want this to be brown, not black.
* Got some crystal 40L (think it was 40L); prolly use a half pound.
* Got some Victory. This is the one I really need help with - how much do I use? Half a pound? A quarter? Full pound?

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Old 01-26-2007, 10:38 PM   #2
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I like victory malt! I used 1/4 pound in my Fat Tire clones, and I used 1/2 pound in my Sawtooth clones. My recipe for the Sawtooth clone called for the victory to be toasted. So I toasted it in the oven until browned. It tasted a bit like Grape Nuts, IIRC.

Anyway, my guess would be up to 1/2 pound. It would give the beer "a warm, toasty character" according to ebrews.com website. It also improves body and head retention.

I used 1/2 pound chocolate malt in my Pete's Wicked clone, and it's plenty dark. Not black, but way darker than I anticipated. I'm not sure what 3/4 pound would be like.

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I'll probably drop the choc down to 1/2, and maybe the carapils entirely.

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Whatever you do, make sure you make enough to share with a fellow homebrewer who has just relocated and doesn't have any other friends around and is going to be alone without his family and will be broke until finances recover from the move and ................

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Old 01-27-2007, 01:26 AM   #5
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OK. Now you all are peaking my interest. I'm going to have to experiment with some victory.

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Whatever you do, make sure you make enough to share with a fellow homebrewer who has just relocated and doesn't have any other friends around and is going to be alone without his family and will be broke until finances recover from the move and ................
Lucky for you, I've got lots of stuff that's just getting conditioned right now . They'll be plenty.
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Lucky for you, I've got lots of stuff that's just getting conditioned right now . They'll be plenty.
WooHoo!!!!! I might be bringing a few of my own. That is if'n I don't drink the rest. Only got 5 more . Not the best but ok.
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Oh, and Evan?

Bring a sweater; it's a wee nippy out in these parts.

Once you get settled, we should do a 10-gallon batch and split it. Good way for you to learn, and for me to not have to clean up

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-7, nippy? I think a couple of sweaters, a parka, electric socks,...

Should be a fun drive.

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FWIW, I used .5 lbs chocolate, .5lbs victory and .5 lbs crystal 60L on my nut brown ale. Taste was initially malty, slightly sweet, finishing with a hint of nutty character. Color was a deep brown out of the bottle, with a slight tint of red when held up to the light. Overall it is a very good brew. When I brew it again, I'm not sure I'd change anything.

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