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Old 03-23-2010, 02:00 AM   #1
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I'm working up an amber that needs some red hue to it. One of the things I'm considering is adding some melanoidin malt, but the question is how much. A little extra maltiness is ok, but I don't want too much. Here's what I'm thinking so far.

6# pale DME
.5# crystal 40L
.5# crystal 60L
.25# Melanoidin?

1 oz Willamette @ 60 mins
1 oz Amarillo @ 15 mins
1 oz Amarillo dryhop

What do you all think?

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Old 03-23-2010, 03:35 AM   #2
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In my experience, melanoidin gets noticeable fast. I tried an amber with 8oz that was over the top. One other option that has worked for me in the past is to use 2 oz chocolate malt for color with little flavor in an amber.

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Old 03-23-2010, 04:29 AM   #3
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To get red you will have to use a small amount of dark malts or a good dose of dark crystal malt. Carafa Special adds the least flavor.

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Hmm ok. The other thing I had though about for red color was some roasted barley. Wiki suggests less than 1%. For a just a little red hue, maybe a tiny tiny bit?

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I used 8oz in a Belgian Amber and it was pretty malty. I'd probably drop down to 4oz if I brewed it again.

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Ok wierdly enough I cannot get enough melanoidin... so maybe I am not the best source. However, I would not stop at using half pound or more, in a hoppy beer anyway. Your recipe may be light enough to cut back to 1/2 oz?

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I'm not sure how well it steeps. It will not convert it's self. Steeping it you may need more of it anyway. I mashed a pound in a five gallon batch and I thought it was too much (but the beer was still good.) I don't think it's the best way to get the 12-15 SRM for a red color beer.

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Do people get the same overwhelming flavor from CaraRed? How about combining Carared with Melanoidin? Maybe 1/2 lb of the first and a 1/4 lb of the second, or something.

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