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Old 01-28-2009, 08:19 PM   #1
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Default How is this hop schedule? Too crazy?

Take a look at the recipe below, and tell me what I can do to adjust the sweetness from the 33% of caramel malts. The grains are already mixed. Will 84 IBU's be enough to balance?


10 lbs. American 2-row
4 lbs. American Caramel 10°L
1 lb. American Caramel 40°L

.75oz. Galena (10.1 %AA) 60min
.75oz. Chinook (10.7 %AA) 20min
1oz. Pride of Ringwood (11 %AA) 10min
1oz. Simcoe (11.9 %AA) 3min
1oz. Czech Saaz (2.6 %AA) 1min

1oz. Crystal Whole (4.6 %AA) Flameout
2oz. Crystal Whole (4.6 %AA) Secondary 5 days
1oz. E Kent Goldings (5.5 %AA) Secondary (after Crystal) 7 days

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Old 01-28-2009, 08:40 PM   #2
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The IBU's are going to be really high, run it through a on line beer calculator to see how many you will end up with. If you think you can handle it go for it

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Old 01-28-2009, 08:41 PM   #3
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I've haven't tried the 'Pride of Ringwood' yet, but it looks to be the makings of a really hoppy IPA! I think it looks alright, bit of a bite to it, but then again I don't have brewsmith or anything to play around with the numbers... Hope someone chimes in and it turns out to be a great brew!

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My only concern to add is that the aroma from saaz and at least the EKG are going to be overwhelmed by the Chinook and Simcoe.

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5 pounds of crystal malt? Seriously?

Are you OK with this thing finishing around 1.035 - 1.040 ?

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Here's what I get running it through TastyBrew.com | Recipe Calculation

India Pale Ale, India Pale Ale All-grain

Stats
OG 1.082
FG 1.021
IBU 59
ABV 7.9 %
SRM 11

Specifics
Boil Volume 6.5 gallons
Batch Size 5 gallons
Yeast 75% AA

Style Comparison
Low High
OG 1.050 1.082 1.075
FG 1.012 1.021 1.016
IBU 40 59 60+
SRM 8 11 14
ABV 5 7.9 7.8



Fermentables
% Weight Weight (lbs) Grain Gravity Points Color
66.7 % 10.00 American Two-row Pale 55.5 3.6
26.7 % 4.00 American Crystal 10L 21.0 8.0
6.7 % 1.00 American Crystal 40L 5.1 8.0
15.00 81.6

Hops
% Wt Weight (oz) Hop Form AA% AAU Boil Time Utilization IBU
8.8 % 0.75 Galena Pellet 10.1 7.6 60 0.226 25.6
8.8 % 0.75 Chinook Pellet 10.7 8.0 20 0.137 16.4
11.8 % 1.00 Pride of Ringwood Whole/Plug 11.0 11.0 10 0.074 12.3
11.8 % 1.00 Simcoe Whole/Plug 11.7 11.7 3 0.026 4.5
11.8 % 1.00 Saaz Whole/Plug 2.6 2.6 1 0.009 0.3
11.8 % 1.00 Crystal Whole/Plug 3.5 3.5 0 0.000 0.0
23.5 % 2.00 Crystal Whole/Plug 3.5 7.0 DH 0.000 0.0
11.8 % 1.00 East Kent Goldings Whole/Plug 5.0 5.0 DH 0.000 0.0
8.50 59.1


I agree that that is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay to much crystal malt (15-20% max usually)

I also agree that the flavors of the Saaz and EKG's will be lost and I would save those for another day

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Way too much crystal. If was me, I'd add another 10-20 pounds of base malt, then use it for 3 batches instead of one. You could do more with it, too, by adding some other specialty grains. No way would I make a beer with 5 pounds of crystal.

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Way too much crystal. If was me, I'd add another 10-20 pounds of base malt, then use it for 3 batches instead of one. You could do more with it, too, by adding some other specialty grains. No way would I make a beer with 5 pounds of crystal.
so i took your advice and got 10# moer of 2-row. i will cut 5# of that into the crystal mix and save the rest for another batch.

any more thoughts on the hop schedule?
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so i took your advice and got 10# moer of 2-row. i will cut 5# of that into the crystal mix and save the rest for another batch.

any more thoughts on the hop schedule?
I would go ahead and put the entire 10 pounds of 2 row into the mix. That would still leave you with 20% crystal malt, which is still more than I've ever used in a recipe.

I don't really see anything wrong with your hop schedule, but then again I'm not sure want you are going for. I agree with the other poster that said the Chinook will overwhelm some of the other hops....if it were me I would use a different hop for your 20 min addition, but again I'm not sure what you want out of this and we all have different tastes.
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I would go ahead and put the entire 10 pounds of 2 row into the mix. That would still leave you with 20% crystal malt, which is still more than I've ever used in a recipe.

I don't really see anything wrong with your hop schedule, but then again I'm not sure want you are going for. I agree with the other poster that said the Chinook will overwhelm some of the other hops....if it were me I would use a different hop for your 20 min addition, but again I'm not sure what you want out of this and we all have different tastes.
i meant to say that i will take 5# OUT of the crystal mix and add in 5# of the 2-row. that will cut down the crystal by 50%, leaving 16% roughly.
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