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jrobidoux 05-07-2012 05:50 PM

How dark a beer can you get using only Pilsener Malt?
 
I was wondering this to myself while driving to work the other day, and since I don't exactly have the equipment capabilities to see it through, I thought I'd throw it to you guys.

So how dark can you get using only Pilsner Malt, and what type of malt profile would you get from heaps and heaps of only Pilsner Malt? I was thinking like 25 pounds worth in a five gallon batch. The BrewersFriend calculator has this coming out to less than 6 SRM, but in my experience beers always come out much darker than the calculators say...what do you guys think?

Nashbrewer 05-07-2012 05:56 PM

Beersmith shows 7.2(25lbs in 5gal) for German pilsner with a 1gal to 1 lb SRM of 2.

jrobidoux 05-07-2012 06:45 PM

What if you did two mashes? Mashing the second mash with the wort from the first (I forget what this technique is called). Plus a strong boil for maximum kettle carmelization. How much darker could this get you?

JeepDiver 05-07-2012 06:59 PM

you could roast the grain in your oven, and get it as dark as you want

jrobidoux 05-07-2012 07:09 PM

It wouldn't really be Pilsen Malt then though would it?

pcollins 05-07-2012 07:16 PM

You're not really going to get much darker by mashing more grain. BUT, if you do a regular 10 gallon batch and boil that down to 5 gallons, then you're on to something.

TyTanium 05-07-2012 07:44 PM

You might be able to tease out some color from multiple decoctions.

BeerLogic 05-07-2012 09:39 PM

pcollins has it right. That's how I make my Barleywine, which comes out at 18 SRM using nothing but Marris Otter and a really, really long boil. It's kind of like making a giant batch of wort caramel.

teucer 05-07-2012 11:06 PM

Black.

I've made a barleywine darker than BeerLogic's, even - it was black, with a deeply tan head. Nothing but pilsner malt extract (because I didn't have a mash tun big enough for the amount I wanted if it were AG) and a little white sugar (and water, of course!), boiled seven hours, recharging the water when it got low.

CGish 05-07-2012 11:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by teucer (Post 4065590)
Black.

I've made a barleywine darker than BeerLogic's, even - it was black, with a deeply tan head. Nothing but pilsner malt extract (because I didn't have a mash tun big enough for the amount I wanted if it were AG) and a little white sugar (and water, of course!), boiled seven hours, recharging the water when it got low.

I would like to see this recipe if you are willing to share :mug:


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