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Old 11-18-2011, 01:06 AM   #1
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Default Hops for a piney IIPA

Hi, all.

I'm looking to brew a IIPA and want an intense pine flavor and aroma. I plan to use Chinook and Simcoe, but was wondering if anybody had suggestions for another good piney hop? These are the only two varieties I know of that are piney, but I imagine there must be others that I'm not familiar with.

Also, I'm not sure I totally understand the distinction between piney and resiny; could somebody be so kind as to enlighten me (examples are always welcome as my palate is very unrefined).

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Old 11-18-2011, 01:08 AM   #2
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piney and resiny are synonymous. Unless your referring to your pipe.

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Old 11-18-2011, 01:16 AM   #3
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Southern Cross is piney and lemony. Northern brewer and CTZ are pretty piney.

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cascade is the epitome of piney for me. i've made an all-cascade 3 addition plus dry hop ipa, and it tasted like i was drinking a pine tree. my notes on that 1 were "pine taste attenuates in, not out"

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cascade is the epitome of piney for me. i've made an all-cascade 3 addition plus dry hop ipa, and it tasted like i was drinking a pine tree. my notes on that 1 were "pine taste attenuates in, not out"
I don't want to sound rude in any way, and I know everyone's palete is different, but I get zero pine from cascade. I get citrus, mainly orange and grapefruit, and lots of floral. I don't get any of that resinous piney aroma I get from chinook, Simcoe, or CTZ

For the OP: Chinook, Simcoe, CTZ are my picks for pine aroma, in that order. You'll gets some citrus as well, but that should be very oily, dank, and pine like.
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This ^

Both what he said about cascade and the piney hops. Although, I think I'd switch Columbus and Simcoe, but it's close. Chinook is certainly in first for me though.

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I'm in agreeance with scottland, I don't taste any pine in Cascade. Chinook tops the list for piney/resiny.

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Thanks for the responses!

I had to look up what CTZ was (Columbus, Tomahawk, Zeus). Does CTZ mean: any one of these hops, they're all very similar; or, these three names for the same hop?

If I were to do a brew with Chinook, Simcoe, and Columbus, would I have to worry about the flavor getting too muddy (I don't know if they have enough other characteristics to balance the pine)? And, at what time additions in the hop boil does the most pine character come through (or does it depend on the hop?)?

I may have to try this with the above three, and then do another brew where I sub in Southern Cross, it sounds very interesting.

The HopChart is pretty cool; I've been looking for a chart like that for comparison for a while now, much appreciated.

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no rudeness perceived in any way, scottland. yep, tastes are different. that was made off the recipe "CascadePA" that so many people love.

Sulli: please don't use that bs "agreeance". no such word. not being petulant; it's just a pet peeve

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