ohiobrewtus

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In the beers that I've mash hopped, I notice a much stronger hop flavor on the back of the tongue. I did my APA with and without, and there was certainly more hop flavor to it. I'm not 100% sold on it yet, but I've been using it a bit more lately to try and confirm what I tasted in the APA.

My Warrior are all 16.4%. BeerSmith has default values for all hops, sometimes I forget to change them.

I don't find Warrior to be harsh at all. It's one of my favorite hops. I use it almost exclusively for bittering in any beer that's over 60 IBU.

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Sorry OB! Been reviewing my notes, it's Chinook that is way too harsh for my taste buds! Warrior is one of my preferred hops! Just got the two mixed up.

I'm excited to see how this winds up! Maybe I'll have to do another IPA to trade you with. My American IPA came out like crap. Still need to figure out what caused that. :/

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I'm not good enough with designing recipes yet to offer feedback on that end, all I'm going to say is Hell Yeah! brew this badboy, make it a hopmonster from hell.

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I think it looks incredible.

OhioB, have you ever considered, or have you used, a hopback? I like hoppy brews as well, and have been thinking about kludging something together to give it a shot. A buddy of mine in the biz said most micros use them to obtain that nice hop nose you find in a good IPA.

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Chriso

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This might also be a good beer to use Niquejim's technique of chilling the wort to 180*F, turning off the chiller, pitching another hop addition, steeping with a lid for 30 minutes, then resuming chilling. I don't know how far it cools in 30 minutes, I might be concerned for possible DMS production, as I'm not sure what he does to circumvent that. Perhaps it just "doesn't get that cool" in the 30 minutes he steeps those hops.
(link: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f66/fat-...ale-ale-55221/ )

What are your thoughts on Centennial, and do you have any? P-Chef's Heathen IIPA was the bomb-dizzle and it used Centennial for all late additions. Don't know if the Cent would clash with the Simcoe and the Amarillo, though.

DAG NABBIT, this recipe is putting me in a hoppy mood!!!! Might have to stop at N-St for a bomber of Bittersweet Lenny's on the way home.

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I like the Munich, I think the crystal is a little much, love the Aromatic but loose the Melanoiden. I'd replace it with Victory and add some Dark Candi Syrup.
Just kegged something similar but only about 90 IBU's and it's fantastic. I say keep the maltiness up, the crystal down and use sugar to dry it out a little.....

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ohiobrewtus

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I've thought about it, but I don't have access to one or even know how I'd make one. I've read mixed reviews of them though. I'll all for occasionally using an obscene amount of hops, but 6+ oz. in a hopback seems like a bit much for the result that you achieve.

I had an IPA at NHC that was served through a hopback and I really didn't notice much in the way of aroma that was above and beyond other IPA's that I've had:



If I remember correctly (which is not an easy thing to do on Club Night at NHC), they had about 10 oz of cascade in there. They said that this randall was previously used by DFH.

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Chriso

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I think he's talking about a kettle-to-chiller hopback, like these: Hopback 101
I really like the one made from a S/S Oggi container.

Dryhopping might be sufficient though. *shrug*

Mmmm. Hops. *drool*

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First let me say I want to try some of this!!!!

As for the grains. Why dextrin malt if you want a dry beer? Doesn't it just leave residual sugars with little flavor difference from 2-row.
Same thing with the caramel-10. Seems a little much for beer you want to be dry.

About the hops. I think you need to move some of those to late addition. Sure it may no longer be 300ibus but 150IBUs is still very impressive and I think a ton of late addition hops will have more impact than they would pushing the IBUs from 150 to 300. I would move most or all of the Cascades, Columbus and Simcoe to the last 15min. Especially the Cascades, its not doing much back there at 60min but its a great flavor or aroma hop.

Just my 2 cents. I've never made an IIPA with this much hops so my opinions are worth about what you paid for them. My hoppiest beer used 720g (about 25oz) of wet hops in the boil.

Craig

Oh and your insane but I like that kind of insanity

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Ohiobrewtus,

The more I stare at this, the more I think that the specialty grains could be worrisome. I've plugged your recipe into BeerSmith, and played around with the maltbill a little. You'll notice that the hop schedule is the same, except with the 60" addition of Cascade removed per your instructions.

What do you think about the edits I've made? I've not inserted a mash schedule, but I would just keep yours - 150*F for 90 minutes or 120 minutes or whatever length you determine. I *did* make it a 90 minute boil, though, to establish good hot break before starting the hop schedule. Attached is the BSM file for what I have below.

Looking forward to your thoughts!

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - BeerSmith Brewing Software, Recipes, Blog, Wiki and Discussion Forum
Recipe: hopacles 08

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 6.50 gal
Boil Size: 8.71 gal
Estimated OG: 1.103 SG
Estimated Color: 11.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 303.0 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
15 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 63.83 %
3 lbs Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 12.77 %
2 lbs Vienna Malt (3.5 SRM) Grain 8.51 %
12.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 3.19 %
8.0 oz Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 2.13 %
4.0 oz Aromatic Malt (26.0 SRM) Grain 1.06 %
2 lbs Sugar, Table (Sucrose) (1.0 SRM) Sugar 8.51 %


2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] (90 min) (Mash HoHops 8.4 IBU

1.00 oz Warrior [16.40 %] (90 min) (First Wort HoHops 38.0 IBU

3.00 oz Warrior [16.40 %] (60 min) Hops 96.9 IBU
2.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (60 min) Hops 55.1 IBU
3.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 76.8 IBU

1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 12.7 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] (10 min) Hops 7.1 IBU
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] (5 min) Hops 7.9 IBU

2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] (Dry Hop 21 days)Hops -
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 21 days) Hops -

Total Grain Weight: 21.50 lb

Now..... IF I were going to toy around with the hop bill, to capitalize on late additions, but still get 300 IBUs out of it, I would make it something like this:

2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] (90 min) (Mash Hop) Hops 8.4 IBU

2.00 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] (90 min) (First Wort Hop) Hops 64.9 IBU

2.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 51.2 IBU
4.00 oz Warrior [16.40 %] (60 min) Hops 129.2 IBU

2.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 25.4 IBU
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] (10 min) Hops 14.3 IBU
2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] (5 min) Hops 7.9 IBU

2.00 oz Amarillo Gold [10.00 %] (Dry Hop 21 days) Hops -
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 21 days) Hops -

But most importantly, 1) This is your baby! 2) I have VERY little experience with IIIPAs, and 3) I'm sure NO MATTER what recipe you go with, this thing is gonna kick some major a$$!!!!!!! You are da man, and please don't take any of our advice as criticism, just guidance! Seriously, this is an inspiring beer, and I think I'm gonna have to start playin around with my IBUs!

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