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corwin6654 06-23-2011 10:21 PM

Hop in the Dark Clone
 
Hey everyone,

I want to do a Hop in the Dark clone, and I read that Deschutes cold steeps the dark grains @ 55*F and adds that to the pale mash. What do you all think of this recipe for a clone? I'm a little worried that if I cold steeped the dark grains, it wouldn't get dark enough to make the whole 5.5 gallons black. Thoughts?

Hop in the Dark Clone
American IPA


Type: All Grain
Date: 6/12/2011
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Brewer:
Boil Size: 6.70 gal Asst Brewer:
Boil Time: 60 min Equipment: Brew Pot 9 gallons and 10 gallon rubermaid cooler
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00
Taste Notes:

Ingredients

Amount Item Type % or IBU
10 lbs 3.4 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 67.57 %
2 lbs 8.9 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) Grain 16.89 %
1 lbs 6.3 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) Grain 9.21 %
5.9 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt -120L (120.0 SRM) Grain 2.46 %
3.7 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 1.54 %
3.7 oz Chocolate Wheat Malt (400.0 SRM) Grain 1.54 %
1.9 oz Black Barley (Stout) (500.0 SRM) Grain 0.80 %
0.50 oz Nugget [13.00 %] (60 min) Hops 18.3 IBU
1.00 oz Northern Brewer [8.50 %] (60 min) Hops 23.9 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (30 min) Hops 21.6 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (15 min) Hops 11.9 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (1 min) Hops 0.7 IBU
2.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1.00 oz Citra [13.4 %] (Dry Hop 7 days) Hops -
1 Pkgs SafAle English Ale (DCL Yeast #S-04) Yeast-Ale



Beer Profile

Est Original Gravity: 1.069 SG
Measured Original Gravity: 1.069 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.018 SG Measured Final Gravity: 1.015 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.70 % Actual Alcohol by Vol: 7.06 %
Bitterness: 76.4 IBU Calories: 312 cal/pint
Est Color: 24.6 SRM Color: Color

alexmatt86 06-24-2011 02:04 PM

What if you added them in late in the mash? Or just added the black barley late in the mash? 20-15 minutes or so? The only problem is that a lot of flavor will be left behind due to the shorter mash time. Definitely a balance that needs trial and error.

I put carafa 3 late in the mash and it seemed to get pretty dark.. I probably need to use more because my BIPA came out a littler darker than a brown but much lighter than a black ale.

malvado78 06-24-2011 03:24 PM

Not sure if your aware Deschutes has a homebrew section on their website. It says it has the "recipes" for all their beers. I put recipes in quotes because it is only ingredient lists and states that time/amount etc. are the challenge.

Hop in the Dark is here:
http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/recipe/hop-dark-clone

Ingredients List:
Specifics
Recipe type: All grain
Batch size: 5 U.S. gallons
Original gravity: 1.067
Final gravity: 1.015-1.018
Boil time: 90 minutes
Fermentation temp: 65 F
Yeast type: English Ale
Malt

* Pale Malt
* Flaked Oats
* Munich Malt
* Dark Crystal Malt
* Chocolate Malt
* Chocolate Wheat Malt
* Black Barley
* Toasted Oats
* Dark Candy Sugar

Hops

* Northern Brewer
* Nugget
* Centennial
* Amarillo
* Cascade
* Citra

**Note: Temps, times and weights are the challenge. Happy Brewing!

corwin6654 06-24-2011 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by malvado78 (Post 3033693)
Not sure if your aware Deschutes has a homebrew section on their website. It says it has the "recipes" for all their beers. I put recipes in quotes because it is only ingredient lists and states that time/amount etc. are the challenge.

Hop in the Dark is here:
http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/recipe/hop-dark-clone

Ingredients List:
Specifics
Recipe type: All grain
Batch size: 5 U.S. gallons
Original gravity: 1.067
Final gravity: 1.015-1.018
Boil time: 90 minutes
Fermentation temp: 65 F
Yeast type: English Ale
Malt

* Pale Malt
* Flaked Oats
* Munich Malt
* Dark Crystal Malt
* Chocolate Malt
* Chocolate Wheat Malt
* Black Barley
* Toasted Oats
* Dark Candy Sugar

Hops

* Northern Brewer
* Nugget
* Centennial
* Amarillo
* Cascade
* Citra

**Note: Temps, times and weights are the challenge. Happy Brewing!

Yeah, that is pretty much where I got the info for the ingredients in my clone recipe above. I guess my question is more along the lines of cold steeping the dark grains. How much should I steep? In how much water? I'll probably end up just experimenting myself and post back results.

supermoth 06-26-2011 05:14 PM

subscribed. I love that beer!


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