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nicklepickles 02-04-2013 06:17 PM

Hop-bursted Blonde Ale... am I crazy?
 
I recently bought 4 oz each of horizon, ahtanum, meridian, and pacific gem. My original idea was to make two ipas, one featuring horizon and ahtanum, and the other pacific gem and meridian. Ive been tinkering/re-thinking this idea though, and after going to a recent beer tasting I decided to change one of my recipes to a blonde ale... a hop-bursted blonde ale. Can anyone look over this recipe and make sure im not crazy? Also, i am open to changing the hops, both the types and the amounts. This originally was going to be the pacific gem/meridian ipa, but if any other hops would go well, I am open for changes. I also have a couple oz's of bravo and c-type in my freezer. With this in mind, my recipe:

OG: ~1.049 FG: ~1.012 IBUs: ~26

Grains:
10 lbs pale ale malt 80%
1 lb carapils 8%
1 lb vienna 8%
8 oz crystal 20 4%

Hops:
1/2 oz pacific gem @12, 10, 7, & 5 mins.
1/2 oz Meridian @ 2 mins.

1.5 oz Meridian & 1 oz pacific gem F.O/aroma steep

2 oz meridian & 1 oz pacific gem Dryhop 5-7 days

Was planning on splitting this into two half-batches, fermenting one with us-05 and the other with dennys fav 50. Any thoughts?

iBrewR 02-04-2013 06:39 PM

Since you're already going to have an IPA, it sounds like a good idea to have some variety and that grain bill and hop schedule sounds nice. But technically it wouldn't be a Blonde Ale. Closer to an American APA. Blonde Ales have low to medium hop aroma and light to moderate hop flavor, so hop bursting would not be appropriate. Not that it matters. It's your beer, but it might be better to have a description that others would understand.

tagz 02-04-2013 06:47 PM

I think it sounds interesting. Looks like you have good balance on it. Be sure to post you results.

nicklepickles 02-04-2013 06:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by iBrewR (Post 4863483)
Since you're already going to have an IPA, it sounds like a good idea to have some variety and that grain bill and hop schedule sounds nice. But technically it wouldn't be a Blonde Ale. Closer to an American APA. Blonde Ales have low to medium hop aroma and light to moderate hop flavor, so hop bursting would not be appropriate. Not that it matters. It's your beer, but it might be better to have a description that others would understand.

Hmm, good point. I was going for something with a little maltiness, low alcohol, and good hop flavor. I assumed a blonde would be the closest, but I can see APA being a better description. Or maybe I could call it some kind of blonde/APA/IPA fusion thing? as long as its tasty, ill be happy :rockin:

nicklepickles 02-04-2013 06:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tagz (Post 4863514)
I think it sounds interesting. Looks like you have good balance on it. Be sure to post you results.

I'll hopefully be brewing this up this week, maybe next. Definitely will post back with results

nicklepickles 02-05-2013 10:11 PM

I did a little tweaking, and changed the hop timings a bit, focusing more on that post-boil aroma steep and getting bitterness from a FWH. This increased the IBUs slightly, so it's almost in the range for an APA (at ~28 IBUS)
Here's my revamped schedule:

.5 oz pacific gem FWH
.5 oz pacific gem @ 10 min
.5 oz pacific gem @ 5 min
2 oz meridian & 1.5 oz pacific gem aroma steep @ 180F for 20 mins
2 oz meridian & 1 oz pacific gem dryhop for 7 days

Going to be buying grains tomorrow, and I may pick up some hops if something that would pair well here is available. Any suggestions?

nicklepickles 02-08-2013 12:08 AM

Ordered grains today, and subbed the lb of carapils with 1/2 lb carafoam and 1/2 lb golden naked oats, which supposedly greatly increase mouth-feel, head retention, and complexity. Anyone have any experience with these two malts?

llama_boy 02-08-2013 11:30 PM

Sounds like a brilliant idea. Hop selection would have a huge impact on keeping it a blonde or moving into the APA realm IMHO. I bet a 100% Mosaic or Nelson Sauvin would make an amazing blonde. If the tropical aroma comes through without the bitterness it should be a real crowd pleaser.

I would be interested to hear the results of the Pac Gem/Meridian combo. Please keep us posted.

One little correction; FWH is mutually exclusive to Hopbursting. :confused:

nicklepickles 02-08-2013 11:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by llama_boy

One little correction; FWH is mutually exclusive to Hopbursting. :confused:

Youre right, i suppose this isnt a true hop burst. But with only 1 oz added during the boil, and a majority in the aroma steep and dryhop, im sure itll come close enough :cross:

nicklepickles 02-09-2013 08:04 PM

alright, made one (hopefully) final change to the hop schedule to keep it technically hop-bursted. Here's the new schedule:
1 oz pac gem @ 15 mins
1 oz pac gem @ 5 mins
2 oz meridian @ F.O.
1 oz pac gem @ F.O.
2 oz meridian D.H. 7 days
1 oz pac gem D.H. 7 days

going to be brewing this up on thusday at the latest.


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