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Old 07-24-2014, 06:27 AM   #21
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11oz of dry hops is retarded and not in a good way.

i cant even take any of this seriously. i love hops as much or more than than the next guy and use them to the limit.

send me a bottle of the finished product - ill pay for shipping and chip in for w/e you have in it. id like to review to see if im completely off base - id love be proven wrong and learn something new
The recipe is right here: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/head...-clone-390082/

I'm sure it's been done thousands of times by people on this board, and you'll clearly see 5.5 oz of total hops listed for the Dry Hop 8.0 Days additions. After that it says: Split dry hop in half and add half on day 14 and day 21. That sounds like another 2.75 oz each on day 14 and day 21 to me for a total of 11 oz. I didn't make this up on my own, like I said my recipe utilizes many of the things I learned from theveganbrewer's Heady Topper clone.
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Old 07-24-2014, 03:24 PM   #22
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The recipe is right here: http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f12/head...-clone-390082/

I'm sure it's been done thousands of times by people on this board, and you'll clearly see 5.5 oz of total hops listed for the Dry Hop 8.0 Days additions. After that it says: Split dry hop in half and add half on day 14 and day 21. That sounds like another 2.75 oz each on day 14 and day 21 to me for a total of 11 oz. I didn't make this up on my own, like I said my recipe utilizes many of the things I learned from theveganbrewer's Heady Topper clone.
No, that lists a total of 5.5 oz, adding half on day 14 (2.75) and the other half on day 21.

This is copy/pasted from the recipe:

I know I decided on dry hop day to cut down the Columbus from 1.50 ounce to 1 ounce. I think I also replaced that half ounce with something else, but I can't remember. I remember going up to 0.75 ounces of something in dryhop 1, it was either Amarillo or Centennial. The 2nd stage was 1 oz Simcoe, 0.5 Columbus, 0.5 Amarillo, 0.5 Centennial, and 0.25 Apollo though.
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Old 07-24-2014, 05:35 PM   #23
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Copy/paste from the recipe:

1.00 oz** *Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %] Dry Hop 8.0 Days-0.0 IBUs
2.00 oz** *Simcoe [13.00 %] Dry Hop 8.0 Days -0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz** *Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] Dry Hop 8.0 Days-0.0 IBUs
1.00 oz** *Centennial [10.50 %] Dry Hop 8.0 Days-0.0 IBUs
0.50 oz** *Apollo [17.00 %] Dry Hop 8.0 Days-0.0 IBUs

Split dry hop in half and add half on day 14 and day 21. Carb on day 25.


To me it looks like he added 5.5 oz at 8.0 Days (day 8) then took the same 5.5 oz of hops, split it in half (2.75 oz) and added that for the second stage (day 14), and the other 2.75 oz on day 21 before carbing on day 25.

The Heady Topper clone was actually a work in progress for quite a while and the listed recipe is the 4th version (theveganbrewer edited the original post to reflect that) so it is very possible the comment you posted is from the 1st version. Also, that comment never said he didn't add 5.5 oz for the 1st stage or that there wasn't a 3rd stage of another 2.75 oz, it simply says the 2nd stage was 2.75 oz.

The first time I did the clone I used 5.5 oz total and it did not match up to a real Heady Topper, even the 2nd time I did it with the full 11 oz, it wasn't quite there. If you make a clone that matches up to the real Heady Topper with only 5.5 oz split between 2 dry hop additions I'd like to know how you do it because I'd love to use less hops.

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Old 07-28-2014, 08:31 AM   #24
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Added first dry hop. 5 oz of 7-hop mix.

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Old 08-07-2014, 04:24 PM   #25
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Added 2nd dry hop of 3 oz on 8-2. Had to sub Simcoe and CTZ for Apollo because the USPS sorting facility in Kearny, NJ is one of the worst in the country.

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Old 08-07-2014, 11:27 PM   #26
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The 8.0 days in the recipe you cut & pasted refers to the duration and not the day it's dry hopped. I read that as the dry hop amount is a total of 5.5 oz which is split - the first half added on day 14 and the second half added on day 21. 11 oz of dry hop would give off some crazy aroma!

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You may be right about that because if the first dry hop was added on day 14 and removed on day 21 that would be 8 days. And maybe he is carbonating the keg on day 25 and removing the second dry hop on day 28. He really should have done a better job clarifying what he was actually doing. As I said the first time I did the clone I only used 5.5 oz. So maybe the reason my 4th Heady clone was better than the real Heady Topper was because I finally got the pH and hardness right but I was using twice the hops.

Anyway, I added my 3rd dry hop of 2 oz tonight for a grand total of 10 oz of dry hops. Next time I'll use a little less and see how it compares.

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I crashed the yeast and bottled 12 L so far in two Tap-A-Draft bottles. I'll probably bottle the rest on Sunday.

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In the end this didn't end up better than Heady. It is possible the gravity is to blame, but I think it was my choice of hops for the hop bursting additions. The next time I do my 7th Hoppin' IPA I plan to use all dank hops for those additions as the Heady Topper clone uses all dank hops for the 5 minute and flame out additions. I'll probably end up going with a 60% Simcoe, 30% CTZ, 10% Apollo mix for the 20, 15, 10, 5, and flame out additions. For my other 4 hops, which will be used for the hop steep and dry hopping at 10% each of the hop mix I plan to use Centennial, Citra, El Dorado, and Azacca. I'm also going to cut the dry hops down to 6 oz total. Might make some adjustments to the gypsum and acidulated malt as well since my pH was a little low.

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