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Old 12-05-2007, 03:19 PM   #141
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I want to do the porter, (read a little of the Hobbit last night.."some asked for ales, and some for porters")

I will have to ponder it. I am thinking extract since I think they would have had 10% ABV or so in their hearty draughts!

I am thinking:
12 lbs Dark DME
1 lb black patent
.5 lb 2 row pale - burnt over a fire.

.5 oz fuggles hops

Irish Ale yeast

Both of your recipes sound great Hoffmeister and O'flan.

I am thinking that those sound like Green Dragon Ales.

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Old 12-05-2007, 05:39 PM   #142
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Hi my name is Jens and I to am a beer brewing LOTR dork ...


Any Body Doing an Ent-draught or Miruvor ? And who do I need to contact to get in on the LOTR Brew in the hat ? I had a silly Idea for an Ent-Draught aka Treebeard's Tree beer ...

"They felt its power coursing through their limbs and it felt like the hair on their heads was curling and growing. There was a taste or scent like a breeze from the woods."


Treebeard's Tree Beer

2 lbs Crisp Maris Otter.
2 lbs birch syrup
2 lbs Basswood honey
2 lbs golden light DME

1 oz fuggles hops 1/2 at 60min 1/2 at 10min
1 oz heather tips
0.5 oz juniper berries
0.25oz spruce tips

Munton's Ale Yeast

2 oz med toast French oak cubes in secondary



Skal!

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Old 12-05-2007, 05:55 PM   #143
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Jens, welcome. I don't think anyone has started planning an Ent Draught, so by all means, go for it!

O Flannagain's and Cheezydemon's recipes look good to me too. I'd be all for the more "natural" route (in other words, all-grain), however, I have neither the equipment nor know-how to do it. I hope to tackle all-grain at some point, but I'm pretty happy with extract. I really like the idea of using some soured wort, it's a great touch. Definitely a good ale worthy of the Green Dragon. The porter sounds pretty intense, but I'm interested to see how that turns out with that much dark malt in there. If I may make a suggestion though-with that much DME in the wort, I might use a touch more hops. I know porters aren't supposed to be hoppy, but half an ounce of Fuggles is going to be completely lost in 12 lbs of DME. Just a thought, but otherwise it looks great.

Any others participating? When is everyone getting started? Thanks for the feedback!

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Old 12-05-2007, 06:10 PM   #144
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Not to throw a wrench in the mix, but... The use of hops and the use of the name porter would not be historicaly correct. that is if the Tolkien story is ment to be a lost and forgotten past. Remember that hops were not commonly used or reffered to untill the eleventh century AD. And the term Porter did not come into use until the 18th century.

My 2 cents: it needs to be a type of gruit.

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Old 12-05-2007, 06:39 PM   #145
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Not to throw a wrench in the mix, but... The use of hops and the use of the name porter would not be historicaly correct. that is if the Tolkien story is ment to be a lost and forgotten past. Remember that hops were not commonly used or reffered to untill the eleventh century AD. And the term Porter did not come into use until the 18th century.

My 2 cents: it needs to be a type of gruit.
Bilbo uses the term porter though, so it might be "forgotten past" but Tolkien also modelled a lot of their practices after his current culture in England. So, if we were going for an ancient beer, than yea.. we may need to do gruit, but we are going for a Tolkien brew, so using his terms "porter" (Bilbo offered the Dwarves) is ok and "brown beer" (song of pippen) = use of hops.
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Old 12-05-2007, 06:40 PM   #146
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Hi my name is Jens and I to am a beer brewing LOTR dork ...


Any Body Doing an Ent-draught or Miruvor ? And who do I need to contact to get in on the LOTR Brew in the hat ? I had a silly Idea for an Ent-Draught aka Treebeard's Tree beer ...

"They felt its power coursing through their limbs and it felt like the hair on their heads was curling and growing. There was a taste or scent like a breeze from the woods."


Treebeard's Tree Beer

2 lbs Crisp Maris Otter.
2 lbs birch syrup
2 lbs Basswood honey
2 lbs golden light DME

1 oz fuggles hops 1/2 at 60min 1/2 at 10min
1 oz heather tips
0.5 oz juniper berries
0.25oz spruce tips

Munton's Ale Yeast

2 oz med toast French oak cubes in secondary



Skal!

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Old 12-05-2007, 07:26 PM   #147
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Right you are hoff, but I am with dinbin in that I don't think that the dwarves would have used much if any hops. I am hoping that the burnt malt will add some bitter to the mix.

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Right you are hoff, but I am with dinbin in that I don't think that the dwarves would have used much if any hops. I am hoping that the burnt malt will add some bitter to the mix.
I suspect the dwarves used heather or something else for the bittering. Like someone said earlier, Tolkien based the dwarves on the early scotts. I suspect the men wouldn't be using hops either, I think just the hobbits were... and maybe the elves because they were so wise in what herbs and plants did what.
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Old 12-05-2007, 07:32 PM   #149
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I wasn't aware that such a book existed, but here you go.

http://www.amazon.com/Plants-Middle-.../dp/0873388836

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I wasn't aware that such a book existed, but here you go.

http://www.amazon.com/Plants-Middle-.../dp/0873388836
God I'm such a nerd, I really want that book now.
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