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I am trying to get close to this masterpiece.

The site says:
13.5P
85 ibus (seems a little high)
2 row and crystal malts

Centennial, Chinook, Columbus, Simcoe, and Warrior hops;

Here is what i came up with:

60 min - 0.50 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - 24.7 IBUs

15 min - 0.25 0z Columbus [13.00 %] - 5.3 IBUs
15 min - 0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - 10.6 IBUs
15 min - 0.25 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - 5.5 IBUs

10 min - 0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - 7.8 IBUs
10 min - 0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - 6.0 IBUs
10 min - 0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [13.00 %] - 7.8 IBUs

Flame out:
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] -
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] -
0.50 oz Columbus (Tomahawk) [14.00 %]

Total IBUS: 66.6 (doesnt account for the 20 - 30 min steep @ 180 degrees that may pick up a few more ibus

Any input would be great. i just threw this together.

skibb

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I have actually been going back and forth a bit with Shaun at HFS and he's quite secretive about the recipe. He did tell me though that Columbus is in the co2 extract form and is used for bittering only.
Edit: He also seemed to allude that roughly half of the 85 IBUs came from the bittering addition, which leads me to think this beer has a ton of late hop additions (i.e. hop bursting or large whirlpool additions)

kjjohns5

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I'm sure they used more hops at 60 minutes than that. In addition, it wouldn't be a bad idea to throw some at FWH to give the beer a wonderful hop flavor to round out that bitterness. I find that when FWHd enough, high IBUs tend to be hidden amongst the canopy of hop flavor. Columbus is likely used quite a bit at bittering to get about 70 IBUs, and I'd say Simcoe and Warrior at FWH and FO, and Centennial and Chinook for a ton to flavor. I'd then probably dry hop with Simcoe, Columbus, and Centennial.

I also know that he uses a lot of hop extract....

I'm assuming the 20-30 min steep you were mentioning was a FWH addition? Good luck!

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Thanks for the input guys! I am going to give this a shot this weekend..

Grain bill:
11lbs 2 row
0.75 c20?

5.5 gallons

Est OG 1.054 at 70%

Here is my modified hop schedule.

FWH
0.50 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - 15.5 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - 12.6 IBUs

60 min
.50 0z Columbus [13.00 %] - 20.1 IBUs

15 min -
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - 10.6 IBUs
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - 7.7 IBUs


5 min
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - 4.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - 6.2 IBUs

Flame out:
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %]
0.50 oz Warrior[15.00 %]
0.50 oz Columbus [14.00 %]

Total IBUs 76.1

Any ideas on what yeast to use?

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matt81

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How did this clone turn out? What yeast did you end up using?

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Here is what I went with.. a little different

Grain bill:
11lbs 2 row
0.50 c20
.50 flaked wheat
.50 carapils

5.5 gallons
OG 1.053

FWH
0.50 oz Warrior [15.00 %] - 15.5 IBUs
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] - 12.6 IBUs

60 min
.25 0z Columbus [13.00 %] - 11.1 IBUs

15 min -
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - 10.6 IBUs
0.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - 7.7 IBUs

5 min
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] - 4.0 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] - 6.2 IBUs

Flame out:
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %]
0.50 oz Warrior[15.00 %]
0.50 oz Columbus [14.00 %]

Total IBUs 65ish

Used wlp007

It has only been 1 week.. will pull a sample soon

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Edward is really a sensational beer. I think yeast if very key to this beer, what do they use?

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I wish I knew

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tmains

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Got an update on this? Sounds great.

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It turned out good, but nothing like edward though. Next time I will double the flavor hops and mash at 153 instead of 150

The flaked wheat and carapils give it a good creqmy mouthfeel, but there as much body and hop flavor as I like in a pale ale.

Also, it has only been kegged for 2 weeks and I didn't dry hop it in the fermentor..(I used the yeast cake for another brew)

It is sitting with 2oz of whole hops at 50 degrees right now. I am going to have a pint tonight to see how it is progressing.

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