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Old 11-13-2011, 06:19 PM   #1
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Default Help me tune my Caldera IPA Clone

Here's what I've put together in BeerCalculus:


Caldera IPA Clone
Batch Size: 1 gal
60% 1lb 8oz American Two-row Pale
20% 0 8oz Munich Malt - 10L
20% 0 8oz Crystal 20L

(60 mins) 0.4 oz Centennial pellet
(10 mins) 0.25 oz Simcoe pellet
(1 min) 0.25 oz Amarillo pellet
(1 min) 0.25 oz Simcoe pellet

Safale US-05

This gives me:
OG: 1.066
FG: 1.018
Projected ABV: 6.4%
SRM: 10
IBU: 99.6

Calder's website calls for:
SRM:10.1
IBU: 94
ABV: 6.1%

So I'm on for color, and a little over on IBUs. Is there an easy way to fix this? I kept the hop additions in mangeable quantities, as this is my first attempt at my own recipe. I have no idea if my grainbill is to proper proportion. I guess on such a small scale, I could afford to wing it, but it never hurts to ask. I assume there is a set framework for different beer styles, as far as proportions of grains go. Is there a place to find this? Or is it just kind of a trial and error thing?

Also, I plan to mash at around 152 °F for 60 mins (maybe up to 156 °F for another 30 mins to try to leave some maltiness to offset the high IBUs?). Will these numbers be ok? Maybe I'm overthinking this stuff. Meh, I don't know.

Any and all input will be welcome. Amarillo and Simcoe are new to me, so I'm not sure I'm using them properly to obtain the strong citrus notes of this beer's inspiration. BeerCalculus doesn't seem to have an ability to select dry-hopping, so that is also an option. Maybe I should scale back some of the late hop additions and put them back in dry hopped? What are your thoughts?

Thanks,
Dan

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Old 11-14-2011, 02:36 AM   #2
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The only thing I would change is the gallons!! Really?? ONE gallon of IPA? PLEASE tell me you live in a campground and you have to boil on a camp stove. Other than that I think you have a solid recipe!

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Old 11-14-2011, 03:54 AM   #3
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We're in the process of upgrading. This was the starter kit I got, and money is kinda tight. I buy things as I can afford them. Have my 40 qt aluminum pot, and my brother is buying a burner tomorrow. Once we get our fermentation bucket, we'll be golden.

Until then, I want to brew as much as I can, learn as much as I can, and continue to try to nail down my process and knowledge of recipes.

I'm a victim of circumstance!!

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Old 11-14-2011, 04:19 AM   #4
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My main suggestion would be to lighten up on the Crystal, because 20% is really high, especially for an IPA. Even the IPA recipes that are heavy on crystal usually aren't more than about 10% max and most aim lower than that.

Also, If you want fewer IBUs, just lighten up the 60 minute Centennial addition a bit until it gets you the IBUs that you want.

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Old 11-14-2011, 05:00 AM   #5
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Thanks. This is the kind of info I was looking for. So should I drop the crystal to 3-4 oz and make the difference up in 2-row? Maybe just play with it until I get the color close? How does the hop schedule look? I'm assuming Centennial is the best bittering hop of the three, and hopefully it will be flavor-forward enough with the late additions of Simcoe and Amarillo.

New Grainbill:
68% 1lb 11oz American Two-row Pale
25% 0 10oz Munich Malt - 15L
8% 0 3oz Crystal 20L

(55 mins) 0.4 oz Centennial pellet
(10 mins) 0.25 oz Simcoe pellet
(1 min) 0.25 oz Amarillo pellet
(1 min) 0.25 oz Simcoe pellet

Is it OK to have 25% munich? I also shortened the boil on the bittering hops to get the IBUs a little closer.

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Old 11-14-2011, 07:41 PM   #6
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25% munich is ok, but I'd guess it would be lower. probably something like
75-85% 2-row (2lb)
10-20% munich (6oz)
5-10% crystal (2oz 60L)

I'd add in a 0.5oz or so dry hop as well.

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Old 11-14-2011, 08:03 PM   #7
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I agree that you might want to ease up on the crystal. If you want to maintain color while using less crystal, you could try using crystal 40 or 60

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Old 11-17-2011, 01:08 AM   #8
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Thanks,

That's just what I was looking for. Changed it up per dcp27's suggestions and added a .05 oz dry hop with amarillo. Hopefully it turns out close to the original!

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Old 11-18-2011, 09:47 PM   #9
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I like me some Caldera IPA, but a $10 a six pack .. homebrew sounds like a good choice. Here's what I got out of BeerSmith for a 5.5 gal batch. The grain bill looks fine, but I ain't too adept at hop calculations. Whaddya think?


10 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) 74.74 %
2 lbs 4.0 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) 16.82 %
1 lbs 2 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) 8.45 %
1.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (60 min) 45.1 IBU
1.50 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (30 min) 34.6 IBU
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (10 min) Hops 14.2 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
1.00 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (0 min) (Aroma Hop-Steep)
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (Dry Hop 3 days)

Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.066 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.017 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 6.37 %
Bitterness: 93.9 IBU
Est Color: 10.0 SRM

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Old 11-20-2011, 12:03 AM   #10
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Just bumping this to get comments on the hop schedule above.

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