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ApolloSpeed · 11-25-2008, 12:48 AM

I'm waiting on an order from AHS, but being its the holidays....it might be a while getting here.

I got a free'ed up carboy ready for a 4 gallon batch. And I also got some random stuff, maybe you guys can help me work up a makeshift batch for the time being.

I got:

1oz Mt. Hood
1oz NZ Goldings
1lb Munich
1lb German Pils
3lb Torrified Wheat
3lb White Wheat
3lb Flaked Wheat
1lb Liquid Wheat malt extract
10lb Dextrose

and some generic Coopers yeast. 2 packets of 33407W and 1 pack of 07108P.

Any ideas? Or should I just slam something together and see what happens?

ApolloSpeed · 11-25-2008, 01:06 AM

what about something like this?? Maybe trying all-grain for the first time.

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 4.00 gal
Boil Size: 3.00 gal
Estimated OG: 1.044 SG
Estimated Color: 3.9 SRM
Estimated IBU: 16.5 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
3.00 lb Wheat, Torrified (1.6 SRM) Grain 42.86 %
2.50 lb Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM) Grain 35.71 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt (7.0 SRM) Grain 14.29 %
0.50 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (1.2 SRM) Grain 7.14 %
0.75 oz Mt. Hood [5.20 %] (60 min) Hops 15.5 IBU
0.25 oz Mt. Hood [5.20 %] (5 min) Hops 1.0 IBU
1 Pkgs Cooper Ale (Coopers #33407 W) Yeast-Ale

**Yuri_Rage** · 11-25-2008, 01:22 AM

You don't have enough of any base grain or extract to make four gallons of anything that resembles beer. Also, torrified wheat will not convert itself.

ApolloSpeed · 11-25-2008, 01:32 AM

not convert itself? why?

**Yuri_Rage** · 11-25-2008, 01:33 AM

It's a cereal adjunct, not a malted grain. Its diastatic power is 0.0.

ApolloSpeed · 11-25-2008, 01:43 AM

i guess i dont understand.....

**Yuri_Rage** · 11-25-2008, 01:51 AM

Torrified wheat is not malted, therefore it won't contribute any enzymes to the mash. Without enzymes (or without enough enzymes), the mash will not achieve the end goal of converting starches to sugars. Without sugar, the beer will not ferment.

To use torrified wheat, you must include a base grain like pale malt, pilsner, or even white wheat. To ensure conversion and avoid a stuck sparge, cereal adjuncts should probably not make up more than about 10% of the total grist. It is possible to successfully mash a grain bill with about 40-50% cereal adjuncts, but I don't recommend it, especially given the rest of your stated ingredients and your experience level.

ApolloSpeed · 11-25-2008, 02:22 AM

Interesting. Thanks for the advice...... So everything but Pilsners and malts, should be under 50% of the total bill.

ApolloSpeed · 11-26-2008, 05:36 AM

Well..... I jumped the gun and started this last night.

Batch Size: 4.00 gal
Boil Size: 2.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.050 SG
Estimated Color: 4.1 SRM
Estimated IBU: 12.6 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 60.00 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
2.00 lb Wheat, Flaked (1.6 SRM) Grain 25.00 %
2.00 lb Wheat, Torrified (1.6 SRM) Grain 25.00 %
1.50 lb White Wheat Malt (2.4 SRM) Grain 18.75 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt (7.0 SRM) Grain 12.50 %
0.50 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Ger (1.2 SRM) Grain 6.25 %
0.75 oz Mt. Hood [5.20 %] (60 min) Hops 11.8 IBU
0.25 oz Mt. Hood [5.20 %] (5 min) Hops 0.8 IBU
1.00 lb Corn Sugar (Dextrose) (0.0 SRM) Sugar 12.50 %
1 Pkgs Cooper Ale (Coopers #33407 W) Yeast-Ale

I actually ended up with only 1.032..... so I added 1lb of dextrose and finally came out to 1.042

It smells really nice and sweet from the airlock, hopefully all will turnout good.

**Yuri_Rage** · 11-26-2008, 01:54 PM

I tried to warn him. Oh well.