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Old 04-27-2014, 03:03 AM   #1
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Default Help with Lavender & Peppercorn Porter

I am creating a recipe for a lavender pepper porter and I'm having a hard time figuring out the amounts for the lavender and pepper.

I don't want subtle and I don't want extreme. I'm shooting for somewhere in the middle or slightly above so the aroma is clearly both porter and lavender (maybe even some peppery aroma in the nose) and the flavors are porter and a bit of a zing from the pepper (possibly a little lavender flavor as well).

Here is the recipe I have so far.

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LAVENDER PEPPER PORTER
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Batch Size: 3.1 gallons
Boil Time: 60 minutes
Calculated Boil Size: 3.7 gallons


6.32 lbs. 2-Row
0.6 lbs. Caramalt (11 L)
0.6 lbs. Roasted Barley (300 L)
0.4 lbs. Crisp Carapils (1.8 L)
0.4 lbs. Chocolate Malt (350 L)
0.3 lbs. Caramel Malt 90 L

0.40 oz. Fuggle (US) @ 60 minutes

YEAST: S-04

1 1/2 teaspoons crushed peppercorn blend* @ 15 minutes

1 1/2 teaspoon dried lavender flowers @ 0 minutes

Prime the beer with 2/3 cup Torani Lavender syrup. (Maybe more?)

*Peppercorn blend = black, white, green and pink peppercorns

What do you guys/gals think? Should I include some crushed peppercorns around 5 min or 0 min for a peppery aroma? How's the recipe look overall? Would love some feedback Thanks!

EDIT: Was thinking about maybe ordering some of this lavender flavoring, but not sure how to use it in the brew. Any ideas? The link is below.

http://www.beanilla.com/lavender-flavor-extract

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Old 04-27-2014, 10:57 PM   #2
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I ran your list of ingredients through Brewer's Friend* and came up with OG 1070, FG 1017, IBU 10, SRM 40. Which doesn't actually line up with a style (which might not bother you).
Assumed 70% brewhouse efficiency

I would trade the CaraPils and CaraMalt for 8 oz. of C40L. The lighter crystal malts are going to contribute mostly sweetness and dextrine, while going for a medium crystal will contribute flavor as well. You could reduce the roasted barley and chocolate malts to 4 oz. each to lighten the color a little, and reduce your pale two-row to 6 lbs. to lighten the OG to 1060 - more in the porter range. And you might bump up the Fuggles to a full ounce to get enough bitterness to balance your malt.

Have you ever brewed with lavender before? According to Sam Calagione (Dogfish Head), it can easily overwhelm your beer. You might want to start very light, maybe 1/4 tsp., and work on the level of lavendar in a secondary fermenter, treating it like dry hopping.

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Thanks for the response sptaylor. Appreciate it.

how does this look?

6.00 lbs. 2-Row
4.00 oz. Roasted Barley (300 L)
4.00 oz. Chocolate Malt (350 L)
4.80 oz. Caramel Malt 90 L
8.00 oz. Caramel Malt 40 L

1.00 oz. Fuggle (US) @ 60 minutes

I haven't ran the numbers yet, but what do you think?

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This looks like a robust porter. As I said, be careful with the lavender, but, with proper attention, this can be outstanding.

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I would add at least an ounce of peppercorns as they don't carry through the final product very well.

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Subscribed! This sounds like a great beer. When are you going to brew it? Are you planning on reporting back with how it turns out? Will you ship me some once you are done? I'd happily cover the freight or send something your way.

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Ok, I think I've got it! Below is the recipe I think I'm going to go with. A couple of things concern me though. Is that too heavy on the hops? This recipe is for a 3 gallon batch, not five. Also, the peppercorn and lavender amounts I have listed are for 5 gallon recipes. How can I adjust those levels? OR should I leave them be? Thanks!

6.00 lbs. 2-Row
4.00 oz. Roasted Barley (300 L)
4.00 oz. Chocolate Malt (350 L)
4.80 oz. Caramel Malt 90 L
8.00 oz. Caramel Malt 40 L

1.00 oz. Fuggle (US) @ 60 minutes

0.50 oz. ground peppercorns @ 15 minutes
0.50 oz. ground peppercorns @ 0 minutes
0.50 oz. Dried lavender flowers @ 0 minutes

Yeast: Safale s-04

Prime beer with Torani Lavender syrup

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I did the calculations assuming 3.1 gallons and 70% brewhouse efficiency. OG 1060, FG 1015, IBU 30, SRM 28. Right down the line for a robust porter, almost dead-center balanced.

I would go with 0.3 oz. for each (0.5 oz. for 5 gallons, 0.3 oz. for 3 gallons) peppercorn addition, and 0.2 oz. for the lavender until you taste it to see where you are. You can always add more.

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