Help with an English Brown....

ScottD13 · 09-01-2005, 04:23 PM

English Brown

Target OG: 1.046
Target FG: 1.01
Target IBU: 19
Target SRM: 18

Grains
4 oz. American crystal 40L
8 oz. American crystal 90L
4 oz. American crystal 120L
3 oz. American chocolate
.5 oz. American black patent
Steep till boil.

Extract
5.5 Light DME

Hops
1 oz. Fuggles (4.75% AA, 60 min.)
.50 oz. Fuggles (4.75% AA, 30 min.)
1.5 oz. Kent Goldings (5% AA, 30 min.)
1 oz. Kent Goldings (aroma)

White Labs WL005- British Ale Yeast

Ok two questions:
Am I going to get to raisinie with the Crystal 120L?
Will 1oz of Kent Goldings have too much aroma for an English Brown? I’ve seen anywhere from .5oz to 1.oz.

Thoughts?

Thanks in advance.

Sir Sudster · 09-02-2005, 03:59 PM

I have never user Crystal 120L so can't answer that question.

One thing I did notice is that your target IBU says 19. My calculations based on your hop schedule comes up with 31.6 IBU's. If your shooting for 19 I would cut back the bittering hops by half and only use 1 oz for flavoring.
I would keep the aroma as is.

Turricaine · 09-02-2005, 04:21 PM

Yeah, i agree that your hop schedule looks heavy for a brown but it is not 'that' bad.

You could get more predictable result from using a little more black patent. I aim to do a brown ale for my next batch. You should still be ok since this is your personal preference here and that is always going to be an individual thing.

ScottD13 · 09-02-2005, 08:11 PM

Interesting that the Recipator has it at 19IBUs... Never was good at math, I'll have to review the forumla and do it out manually.

Thanks!

ScottD13 · 09-02-2005, 08:18 PM

ERROR!!!

got to go back to the Recipator

Turricaine · 09-02-2005, 09:41 PM

On my copy of promash you are at 47.8 IBU and if your Goldings are really 5% then you are even exceeding this. 30 IBU is considered the max for a brown ale. And this is before we have even considered the addition of the aroma hops at 0 min. PLEEZE NIGGA, DO UR HOMEWORK FIRST.

El Pistolero · 09-02-2005, 10:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turricaine

On my copy of promash you are at 47.8 IBU and if your Goldings are really 5% then you are even exceeding this. 30 IBU is considered the max for a brown ale. And this is before we have even considered the addition of the aroma hops at 0 min. PLEEZE NIGGA, DO UR HOMEWORK FIRST.

Don't know what that last means in the UK, but over here that kind of language will get you thrashed.

Turricaine · 09-03-2005, 08:00 AM

i just harbor bad sentiment after some 'book' published by the author David Line explained that I needed to use 3 ounces of hops in my first batch. That was my worst batch ever! It did not even taste like beer it was that awful. Obviously people make mistakes and it was a mistake of mine to trust what was written on those pages. John Palmer is a deccent guy though. I feel you can trust what he says as the truth on the matter. Also 3 ounces back in the 1980 brew market might be a bit different to the modern climate so David Line's books are probably outdated.

ScottD13 · 09-05-2005, 12:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Turricaine

On my copy of promash you are at 47.8 IBU and if your Goldings are really 5% then you are even exceeding this. 30 IBU is considered the max for a brown ale. And this is before we have even considered the addition of the aroma hops at 0 min. PLEEZE NIGGA, DO UR HOMEWORK FIRST.

First all the language is completely inappropriate!

Secondly I know what the range is.

Thirdly explain to me why every time I use the recipator I get a different IBU with the same set of Hops, 1st time came out at 19IBU, 2nd time 35 and right now it came back at 57! There’s obviously an error somewhere.

I’m well aware of what the range is, as a RESEARCH LIBRARIAN I always do my homework. As for not have posted a correction, well I’ve been away for a few days. When I have the time to redesign the hop schedule it WILL be correct.

Just because I’ve not brewed in a few years doesn’t mean I’m a total noob, it just means I’m a bit rusty.

Turricaine · 09-05-2005, 08:39 AM

No, i appreciate that whn you are experimenting with things you have not done before then the results are going to get flakey. In my latest batch my brew tasted far too 'malty' but you just have to bash it down to experience since that is my 3rd batch of AG.

On Promash there are different variables for the hop schedule. Changing the amount/variety of hops and the time they were added to the boil IS going to dramatically effect the outcome of your brew.