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maffewl 05-29-2011 06:20 PM

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Turned out excellent. Not an exact clone of Hopsecutioner, but a very good IPA nonetheless.

Here are my comparison notes (Images below):

Appearance: The color between the two is extremely close. Mine has a case of chill haze and I think that is showing more in the pictures than in real life. I took a close up of the bottom of the glasses to show the difference. If there is any difference at all, mine is a very slight bit darker... however, I feel that if it was clear, the color would be spot on.

Smell: Hopsecutioner has a strong citrus hop smell. Mine does not have quite that strong of a hop smell. I left out the Cascade dry hop (I didn't have much left and wanted to save it for the next brew) and feel that may have been one of the causes. I'm also feeling that I need to ease up on the Warrior a tad, and add more citrus type hops such as Chinook and Centennial.

Taste: The taste was close, but not exact. Again, this is a great IPA, but I wanted to clone Hopsectioner, and I don't feel it's exact enough. The taste comparison is similar to the smell in that I feel that there was not enough citrus hop overtones. I feel the Chinook and Centennial are my first places to start tweaking.

Mouthfeel: Very close here. I think they both have the same mouthfeel, however, I was quite surprised to see that my head retention and lacing whipped the junk out of Hopsectioner. It wasn't even close.

All in all, this is a great drinking IPA, and I would have no hesitation to brew it again. But, it's not a clone, and that was my goal... so I'm going to tweak the recipe a little further and post the changes.

Mine is on the right in the first picture outside... all the rest, the bottle shows which is which.


maffewl 05-29-2011 06:20 PM

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Turned out excellent. Not an exact clone of Hopsecutioner, but a very good IPA nonetheless.

Here are my comparison notes (Images below):

Appearance: The color between the two is extremely close. Mine has a case of chill haze and I think that is showing more in the pictures than in real life. I took a close up of the bottom of the glasses to show the difference. If there is any difference at all, mine is a very slight bit darker... however, I feel that if it was clear, the color would be spot on.

Smell: Hopsecutioner has a strong citrus hop smell. Mine does not have quite that strong of a hop smell. I left out the Cascade dry hop (I didn't have much left and wanted to save it for the next brew) and feel that may have been one of the causes. I'm also feeling that I need to ease up on the Warrior a tad, and add more citrus type hops such as Chinook and Centennial.

Taste: The taste was close, but not exact. Again, this is a great IPA, but I wanted to clone Hopsectioner, and I don't feel it's exact enough. The taste comparison is similar to the smell in that I feel that there was not enough citrus hop overtones. I feel the Chinook and Centennial are my first places to start tweaking.

Mouthfeel: Very close here. I think they both have the same mouthfeel, however, I was quite surprised to see that my head retention and lacing whipped the junk out of Hopsectioner. It wasn't even close.

All in all, this is a great drinking IPA, and I would have no hesitation to brew it again. But, it's not a clone, and that was my goal... so I'm going to tweak the recipe a little further and post the changes.

Mine is on the right in the first picture outside... all the rest, the bottle shows which is which.


maffewl 05-29-2011 06:20 PM

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Turned out excellent. Not an exact clone of Hopsecutioner, but a very good IPA nonetheless.

Here are my comparison notes (Images below):

Appearance: The color between the two is extremely close. Mine has a case of chill haze and I think that is showing more in the pictures than in real life. I took a close up of the bottom of the glasses to show the difference. If there is any difference at all, mine is a very slight bit darker... however, I feel that if it was clear, the color would be spot on.

Smell: Hopsecutioner has a strong citrus hop smell. Mine does not have quite that strong of a hop smell. I left out the Cascade dry hop (I didn't have much left and wanted to save it for the next brew) and feel that may have been one of the causes. I'm also feeling that I need to ease up on the Warrior a tad, and add more citrus type hops such as Chinook and Centennial.

Taste: The taste was close, but not exact. Again, this is a great IPA, but I wanted to clone Hopsectioner, and I don't feel it's exact enough. The taste comparison is similar to the smell in that I feel that there was not enough citrus hop overtones. I feel the Chinook and Centennial are my first places to start tweaking.

Mouthfeel: Very close here. I think they both have the same mouthfeel, however, I was quite surprised to see that my head retention and lacing whipped the junk out of Hopsectioner. It wasn't even close.

All in all, this is a great drinking IPA, and I would have no hesitation to brew it again. But, it's not a clone, and that was my goal... so I'm going to tweak the recipe a little further and post the changes.

Mine is on the right in the first picture outside... all the rest, the bottle shows which is which.


maffewl 05-29-2011 06:20 PM

4 Attachment(s)

Turned out excellent. Not an exact clone of Hopsecutioner, but a very good IPA nonetheless.

Here are my comparison notes (Images below):

Appearance: The color between the two is extremely close. Mine has a case of chill haze and I think that is showing more in the pictures than in real life. I took a close up of the bottom of the glasses to show the difference. If there is any difference at all, mine is a very slight bit darker... however, I feel that if it was clear, the color would be spot on.

Smell: Hopsecutioner has a strong citrus hop smell. Mine does not have quite that strong of a hop smell. I left out the Cascade dry hop (I didn't have much left and wanted to save it for the next brew) and feel that may have been one of the causes. I'm also feeling that I need to ease up on the Warrior a tad, and add more citrus type hops such as Chinook and Centennial.

Taste: The taste was close, but not exact. Again, this is a great IPA, but I wanted to clone Hopsectioner, and I don't feel it's exact enough. The taste comparison is similar to the smell in that I feel that there was not enough citrus hop overtones. I feel the Chinook and Centennial are my first places to start tweaking.

Mouthfeel: Very close here. I think they both have the same mouthfeel, however, I was quite surprised to see that my head retention and lacing whipped the junk out of Hopsectioner. It wasn't even close.

All in all, this is a great drinking IPA, and I would have no hesitation to brew it again. But, it's not a clone, and that was my goal... so I'm going to tweak the recipe a little further and post the changes.

Mine is on the right in the first picture outside... all the rest, the bottle shows which is which.


Keirnal 12-17-2013 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by maffewl View Post
Reviving this one... has there been any more attempts at this brew with the changes? I love Hopsecutioner and can't find a clone anywhere. Here's a recipe I came up with based on the OP's previous experience along with the Terrapin official info listed here... http://terrapinbeer.com/brew/year-ro...ecutioner-ipa/. Thoughts welcome! And if there have been any more tries, I love to hear how they fared.

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 5.50 gal
Boil Size: 6.56 gal
Boil Time: 60 min

Est Original Gravity: 1.075 SG
Est Final Gravity: 1.020 SG
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 7.25 %
Bitterness: 78.8 IBU
Est Color: 11.4 SRM


Amount Item Type % or IBU
10.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 65.57 %
2.75 lb Munich Malt (9.0 SRM) Grain 18.03 %
1.50 lb Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 9.84 %
1.00 lb Victory Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 6.56 %

1.00 oz Warrior [15.00 %] (60 min) Hops 39.6 IBU
0.50 oz Chinook [13.00 %] (30 min) Hops 13.2 IBU
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (15 min) Hops 13.1 IBU
0.50 oz Simcoe [13.00 %] (15 min) Hops 8.5 IBU
1.00 oz Amarillo Gold [8.50 %] (5 min) Hops 4.5 IBU
1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (0 min) Hops -

1 Pkgs Safale American (DCL Yeast #US-05) Yeast-Ale
I brewed based upon this recipe and adjusted after reading the notes from the observation/tasting and looking at the grains/hops used on Terrapin's site, this is what I came up with (again, for a 5 gallon yield):

Grain Weight SRM Percentage
Pale Malt (2 Row) 10 2 65.5
Munich Malt 2.75 9 18
Crystal 20 1.5 20 10
Victory Malt 1 25 6.5
Total 15.25

Amount (Oz.) Name Time AAU Utilization IBU
1 Warrior 60 16 0.1845 35
0.5 Chinook 30 13 0.1415 11
1.25 Centennial 15 10.5 0.0925 14
0.5 Simcoe 15 13 0.0925 7
1 Irish Moss 15
1 Amarillo Gold 5 9.5 0.0365 4
Total IBU: 71
1.5 Cascade Dry Hop

1056 Wyeast - American Ale

Basically, I swapped the Crystal 20 for the Honey Malt, and added a quarter ounce of Centennial to the 15 minute addition, and a half ounce of Cascade to the dry hop. The malt swap helped the color quite a bit, I wasn't able to see a difference in the color (although the clone (on the left in the photo) had a little haziness (but not much) which could have been temperature difference, the clone was in my garage, the Hopsecutioner was in my fridge), and the added hops helped with the lack of the citrus taste, and boosted the aroma. IPA's are so strong that tasting side by side can be skewed, but I think we got pretty close with this recipe. If anyone else feels adventurous enough to try this, please let me know what you think.

Some additional notes - the primary fermentation ended up being 3 weeks (I had a last minute business trip that took me out of town during the time I had planned on racking to secondary) at 64-66 degrees, which is right in the middle of the range for the 1056. When I returned from the trip, I transferred to secondary for 1 week, primed and bottled (haven't gotten to the kegging point yet in my brewing past-time).

Anyway, I'd brew this again, and again, and again ...


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