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Cugel 05-14-2008 02:41 PM

Generic high alpha hop for bittering Belgians???
 
Hey everyone,

I'm trying to cut down on hop use, and am thinking about using a small amount of a "mild" high alpha bittering hop instead of the Styrian Goldings etc typically found in Belgians.
From what my LHBS guy tells me the Belgian brewers us S.G. as a bittering hop primarily due to it's low cost.

Can anyone suggest a generic high alpha hop that I can use for bittering Belgian style brews? My LHBS guy recommended Galena. Any thoughts?

Thanks.

PS I guess the suggestions will largely depend on what kind of Belgians I brew - doubles, strong golden ales, and strong dark Belgians, oh and now am working on a Belgian-ized stout ~9% abv.

TexLaw 05-14-2008 03:24 PM

You will probably use very little of a high-alpha hop, so you really can use just about anything.


TL

Soulive 05-14-2008 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TexLaw (Post 677208)
You will probably use very little of a high-alpha hop, so you really can use just about anything.


TL

+1...lately I'll use anything over 10% for bittering. The variety means very little compared to the AA%. The only exception for me is Chinook. Its too harsh IMO and benefits from FWHing...

zoebisch01 05-14-2008 03:58 PM

That has always been my method, just very small additions of high Alpha Hops. I am in the school of thought that it really doesn't matter with the bittering addition.

Cugel 05-14-2008 04:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zoebisch01 (Post 677275)
That has always been my method, just very small additions of high Alpha Hops. I am in the school of thought that it really doesn't matter with the bittering addition.

This is a conclusion that I am also coming to. From now on a 1/4 oz or 1/2 oz of (say Galena) will be what I use for bittering rather than 1 to 2 oz of East Kent Goldings, Styrian Goldings etc.

Glibbidy 05-14-2008 04:27 PM

I am unable to recommend a high alpha hop for a Belgian. In order to conform with the style I would sugggest sticking with a noble hop. I can however suggest you consider first wort hopping your Belgians to get a little more mileage out of your hops.

What about a moderate AA hop like Northern Brewer or Perle?
NB is used in some Belgians, and Perle is very neutral.

Glibbidy 05-14-2008 04:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cugel (Post 677297)
This is a conclusion that I am also coming to. From now on a 1/4 oz or 1/2 oz of (say Galena) will be what I use for bittering rather than 12 oz of East Kent Goldings, Styrian Goldings etc.

How many gallons are you making? What are the AA's of the SG?

DeathBrewer 05-14-2008 05:53 PM

just don't use anything too citrusy and it'll be fine.

Cugel 05-14-2008 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Glibbidy (Post 677330)
How many gallons are you making? What are the AA's of the SG?

Oops.... did I really write 12 oz of hops?????? Talk about hop juice!

I meant to write 1 to 2 oz of hops. Personally I'm not much of a hop head. A Harpoon IPA is as hoppy as I like.

EinGutesBier 05-14-2008 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Cugel (Post 677138)
Can anyone suggest a generic high alpha hop that I can use for bittering Belgian style brews? My LHBS guy recommended Galena. Any thoughts?

I used Galena as a generic high alpha hop in my strong dark Belgian and I have to say it came through too much in the taste. There was a grassy note that didn't quite agree with me, so I can't agree that Galena would be good for that one. Unfortunately, I can't think of an alternative recommendation right now.


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