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Old 07-01-2008, 05:59 PM   #81
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1 lb 8 oz box of grape nuts
14 oz of minute rice

10 beano tablets
1 package corn husks, cut up with scissors

1/2 oz spruce tips
1/8 tsp whole, cracked coriander seeds
1/4 tsp orange peel zest

baking yeast

I set in with about a gallon of water and mixed the cereal into the mash thoroughly. I used a grain bag, and I think that helped me not burn it to the bottom of the bot like Revvy did. I ground up my beano tablets and mixed them in as well. If I try this again, I'll be putting the beano into the water first, then adding the cereal. I let it sit for two hours at that temp, and it did taste quite sugary, but still hadn't done a complete conversion. The wiseguys in chat said I needed to do a cereal mash on it, so I set it to boil for about 10 minutes, then killed the heat. I ground up five more beano tablets to add into the mash once it'd cooled to 122. I heated it slowly back up to 150. I left it there for three hours.

I finally said F it it's done, and tried draining as much liquid out of the grains as possible. It still took a very long time. Next time I would ad more corn husks for better sparging. I got two gallons of water out of it, and I boiled it down to one gallon. I then added the spices at flameout. Cooled it off, and added some proofed Fliechmann's yeast.

OG..... 1.028 ($^*&^@#@!! And I still have some starches in the wort. It smells pretty damn good though.

Next time I will let it mash overnight and see how well that works. I will also add more corn husks for a drain bed and
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there's gotta be a way to get conversion without using beano. i won't touch that stuff after all the horror stories i've heard and read.
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there's gotta be a way to get conversion without using beano. i won't touch that stuff after all the horror stories i've heard and read.

Can't we just pretend that they keep little half pound bags of 2-row stashed next to the king biscuit flower and the pearl barley?

Even a small amount would probably do more towards helping conversion then beano...
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why not malt your own wheat? you can find unmalted wheat in the grocery, right?
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why not malt your own wheat? you can find unmalted wheat in the grocery, right?
There's no unmalted wheat in my grocery store, pretty much the only whole grain you can get is corn, and malting the corn is going to be my next project.
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Well, amylase enzymes are present in saliva....

I'm looking into health food supplements to see what would likely be available at a grocery store. Probably something having to do with aiding digestion. Or baby formula?

lol nice name for this experiment, freezeblade. I'm calling mine "underage hooch beer". I have another gallon jug, I will not be deterred!
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Hmmm.... What about bananas? According to this, anywhere from 39ºf to 143ºf with a calcium addition will promote good alpha and beta amylase enzyme activity in ripe bananas. It doesn't mention whether just the meat of the fruit is used, or the entire thing skins and all is used. I'll bet it's the entire fruit. Any fruit high in carbohydrates also has amylase enzymes in it.

Dammit where are the chemists on the board? Surely there's a chemist or biofood study-ifier in the house!
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From the wikipedia article on amylase, "Modern bread making techniques have included amylase enzymes into bread improver thereby making the bread making process faster and more practical for commercial use."

I don't know if my grocery store carries something like this, but next time I'm in there I'll check.
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Do any of you guys have a trader joes or whole foods around you? I havent found a whole foods here yet but I know where trader joes is and they have all kinds of specialty items. Or would that be cheating?
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I have both Trader Joe's and Whole Foods. Whole Foods may be cheating, but I'm not so sure about Trader Joe's....

EDIT: Trader Joe's is in 9 states and sells all kinds of grocery items, but isn't strictly a health-food store. It's more like a high end merchandise grocer. I vote that it counts.
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