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06-26-2008, 09:27 PM
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Gotcha. I'll shut up now.
Still contemplating something with molasses. There are dozens of Colonial-era recipes with molasses and spices.
Hmm....
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06-26-2008, 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by BobNQ3X
Gotcha. I'll shut up now.
Still contemplating something with molasses. There are dozens of Colonial-era recipes with molasses and spices.
Hmm....
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Oh yeah, if you can find it, dig up the Dec/ Jan issue of Zymurgy (all about porters) there's a great article/recipe about the Colonial Williamsburg Porter...It uses a burnt sugar/molases mixture....
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06-27-2008, 03:31 AM
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So here I am 30 mins into the 40 min mash for the recipe I posted earlier, and I'm rather concerned about the converting ability of beano, as I can smell no sweetness in the mash, looks to me like this batch of gruel might be a dumper. I'll leave it on for another while to see if it converts, but it's looking like attempt #1 is a failure
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06-27-2008, 10:04 AM
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I wasn't thinking about doing this experiment, but I just so happen to have picked up a book on medieval beer wine mead and cider recipes. I can browse through that and see what kind of items I can get from a zompocalypse grocery store 
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06-27-2008, 10:11 AM
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African Beer
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Here in SA we've got King Korn (malted sorghum and yeast).
it's availible in the shops and the instructions go like this:

Bjala bja setso: African beer
1kg King Korn Mtombo (ready-crushed sorghum malt with yeast)
500g maize meal (flour)
13 litres water
Mix 500g of King Korn Mtombo with 500g of maize meal. Add 2 litres of boiling water and stir until well dissolved. Cover with a lid when cool. Allow to stand overnight to sour.
Boil 2 litres of water in a pot and add the sour mixture, stirring continuously until boiling. Cook the mixture for about an hour then allow to cool.
Add 8 litres of cold water and another 500g of King Korn Mtombo to the mixture and stir in the bucket or calabash.
Leave for 1-3 days to ferment.
Strain the mixture by pressing the liquid through a sieve, then leave for 20-30 minutes.
Enjoy the beer!
i wonder if in the "Allow to stand overnight to sour." step there are any enzymes present that convert the maize into fermentable sugars?
might as well try this, doubt it's gonna taste good!
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06-27-2008, 01:48 PM
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Originally Posted by jaydventer
i wonder if in the "Allow to stand overnight to sour." step there are any enzymes present that convert the maize into fermentable sugars?
might as well try this, doubt it's gonna taste good!
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That was my first impression reading the instructions...a long mash...I would do it in a cooler or something to keep out any nasties...
Also, an I reading it correctly, it has yeast already added to it???
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06-27-2008, 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Freezeblade
So here I am 30 mins into the 40 min mash for the recipe I posted earlier, and I'm rather concerned about the converting ability of beano, as I can smell no sweetness in the mash, looks to me like this batch of gruel might be a dumper. I'll leave it on for another while to see if it converts, but it's looking like attempt #1 is a failure
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DId you try an iodine test??
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06-27-2008, 08:49 PM
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Originally Posted by Revvy
DId you try an iodine test??
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I didn't have any iodine on hand, so no, I didn't. I did however add some honey in the end and took a gravity reading (1.05ish) the wort was very gruel-like, but after some research I decided to just go with it, then after the first bit of fermentation goes, throw in another bean-o capsule if the gravity hasn't moved much, which should give the enzymes PLENTY of time to de-branch the carbs, I saw a few people who added the bean-o into the secondary or after primary fermentation started.
I woke up this morning and saw that yes the fermentation had started, but the amount of what appeared to be trib that separated out is astounding, nearly taking up half the carboy, I'm hoping that the enzymes and time will work on this stuff a bit, whatever it is.
Picture of the starchy-trib mess:
I figured this must be because the main "grains" used were pre-ground into flour then reconstituted as cereal (grape nuts) so the particals were smaller, or something to that effect, what do you guys think?
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06-27-2008, 10:22 PM
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Go carefully with the Beano, it will not stop eating sugars. This article has some decent information.
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06-28-2008, 12:39 AM
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So freeze...you're saying that the entire bottom half is all trub??? OMG...ANd it hasn't even flocculated yet??? WOW... I' really can't wait til ferms over...You might want to consider cold crashing it afterwards...it might help clear it up...
I'll say it again...WOW! Kudos to you for doing it...I still haven't figured mine out yet.
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