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Old 01-03-2010, 12:03 AM   #1
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I've been wanting to do an Amarillo Pale ale for a while and have been wanting to FWH too so this is what I'm thinking....

6.5 gallon batch
Target OG 1.049
Target IBU 57
Mash at 153 for 60 minutes

11lb 2 row Halcyon Pale malt
.5lb crystal 20
.5lb white wheat

.75oz Amarillo 9%aa FWH
.75oz Amarillo 9%aa 60 minutes
1.5oz Amarillo 9%aa 5 minutes

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Having never FWH'ed before I'm not sure what to expect. Any FWHers out there?

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Old 01-03-2010, 12:08 AM   #2
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I've only used FWH in one of my own recipes (a Pils), so take this FWIW but...I would personally move all the bittering additions to FWH and go from there.

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it gives a more rounded out bitterness. I always FWH. It definitely is not the same as a 60 min addition though, in terms of IBU contribution.

From the looks of it, it seems you calculated the FWH as a 60 min, or maybe more, when figuring out our IBU. Am I right? I calculate FWH as a 20 min addition and it seems pretty accurate.

Either way, I think that for your gravity, you have the right amount of hops for ur beer. I don't think 57 IBU in a 1.049 beer would be balanced at all.

Amarillo is Effing awesome! I just guzzled down my amarillo/vienna smash about 5 min ago...

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it gives a more rounded out bitterness. I always FWH. It definitely is not the same as a 60 min addition though, in terms of IBU contribution.

From the looks of it, it seems you calculated the FWH as a 60 min, or maybe more, when figuring out our IBU. Am I right? I calculate FWH as a 20 min addition and it seems pretty accurate.

Either way, I think that for your gravity, you have the right amount of hops for ur beer. I don't think 57 IBU in a 1.049 beer would be balanced at all.

Amarillo is Effing awesome! I just guzzled down my amarillo/vienna smash about 5 min ago...
for the FWH I just used the default settings in promash. I'll have to look into it.
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It definitely is not the same as a 60 min addition though, in terms of IBU contribution
I remember reading where FWH actually increases utilization over a standard 60 min additions. It's just the perceived bitterness that is different.
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...I don't think 57 IBU in a 1.049 beer would be balanced at all. ...
I would agree. If you are trying to stay within American Pale Ale Guidelines, you would have IBU of 30 - 45, with OG of 1.045 - 1.060. Maybe 32 IBU would balance nicely...

I used Amarillo on the batch currently in my fermenter. It smells grate. My IBU is 29. Hope it turns out!
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I'm drinking an IPA that was FWH with amarillo. Then just late hopped and dry hopped with both amarillo and cascade. The bitterness is very smooth. I think I'll start doing FWH more often. As far as IBU, I went with the default in Beer Alchemy, seemed to work out.

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I read on the beersmith website that FWH utililazation is about 10% more than a normal bittering addition. I Would just do your FWH and then push your 60 minute addtion to somewhere around 10mins and up the amount to a full ounce. That way you should get the smoother bitterness of FWH with a good Flavor & Aroma.

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I've been wanting to do an Amarillo Pale ale for a while and have been wanting to FWH too so this is what I'm thinking....

6.5 gallon batch
Target OG 1.049
Target IBU 57
Mash at 153 for 60 minutes

11lb 2 row Halcyon Pale malt
.5lb crystal 20
.5lb white wheat

.75oz Amarillo 9%aa FWH
.75oz Amarillo 9%aa 60 minutes
1.5oz Amarillo 9%aa 5 minutes

from what you posted I get :

Anticipated OG: 1.050
Anticipated SRM: 4.3
Anticipated IBU: 43.1

I have promash set @ -65% for FWH.
Add 20g for dry hopping and its a nice easy drinking APA

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21g. Amarillo 9.0 First WH
21g. Amarillo 25.6 60 min.
42g. Amarillo 8.5 5 min.
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from what you posted I get :

Anticipated OG: 1.050
Anticipated SRM: 4.3
Anticipated IBU: 43.1

I have promash set @ -65% for FWH.
Add 20g for dry hopping and its a nice easy drinking APA

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21g. Amarillo 9.0 First WH
21g. Amarillo 25.6 60 min.
42g. Amarillo 8.5 5 min.
Sweet, thanks!
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