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Old 12-29-2011, 12:14 AM   #1
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Default FW Velvet Merlin (Merkin) Clone?

Has anyone sucessfully cloned Firestone Walkers Velvet Merlin? If so, please post your recipes.

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Old 12-29-2011, 03:48 AM   #2
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FYI, the Merkin and Merlin are different beers. Either way, they're good though!

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Old 12-29-2011, 04:19 AM   #3
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I'm pretty sure they are the same. Fsw had to change the name from merkin to Merlin when it was bottled. Someone at the ttb looked up the meaning of merkin and nixed the name.

Now, there is some barrel-aged merkin that is a wonderful treat and completely different from the regular Merlin.

Cheers!
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:26 AM   #4
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FYI, the Merkin and Merlin are different beers. Either way, they're good though!
Not according to Matt Brynildson, their brewmaster
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Old 12-29-2011, 04:06 PM   #5
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Yeah they are the same...They just had to change the name

Here's a great interview that may help you formulate a clone.

http://www.youtube.com/v/UfaqU30twwU...dded&version=3

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Old 12-29-2011, 05:26 PM   #6
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I did email FSW asking for the malt percentages and mash temp but have not yet received a response.

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Old 04-24-2012, 07:02 PM   #7
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I was lucky enough to get some feedback from Matt Brynildson himself about my draft of a clone recipe for Velvet Merlin. Here is what I ended up with. Haven't tried it yet, as I'm waiting for my current batch of DBA to finish up to clear out the fermentation chamber, but I can't wait to give it a go. It sounds great.

Firestone-Walker Velvet Merlin clone

Type: All Grain
Batch Size: 6.00 gal
Boil Time: 90 min
Brewhouse Efficiency: 70.00 %

Ingredients
Amt Name %/IBU
5 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) 32.8 %
3 lbs Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) 19.7 %
1 lbs 14 oz Oats, Flaked (1.0 SRM) 12.3 %
1 lbs 14 oz Roasted Barley (Briess) (300.0 SRM) 12.3 %
1 lbs 4 oz Munich Malt - 10L (10.0 SRM) 8.2 %
1 lbs 2 oz Crystal, Dark (Simpsons) (80.0 SRM) 7.4 %
6.0 oz Crystal, Medium (Simpsons) (55.0 SRM) 2.4 %
4.0 oz Carafa III (525.0 SRM) 1.6 %
2.00 oz Fuggles, US [4.50 %] - Boil 60.0 min 31.6 IBUs
0.50 oz Fuggles, US [4.50 %] - Boil 10.0 min 1.6 IBUs
1.0 pkg English Ale (White Labs #WLP002)

Beer Profile
Est Original Gravity: 1.062
Est Final Gravity: 1.022 (?)
Estimated Alcohol by Vol: 5.3 %
Bitterness: 33.2 IBUs
Est Color: 39.7 SRM

Mash Steps
156 F 30 min
159 F 30 min

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Old 04-25-2012, 01:50 PM   #8
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Thanks for posting. Keep us updated on how it turns out.

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Old 04-25-2012, 01:58 PM   #9
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Are you going to oak treat it? I think it says they actually use bourbon barrels for part of the beer.

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Old 04-26-2012, 02:29 PM   #10
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Thanks for pointing that out. I'd overlooked that detail. The FW website says that they do all the fermenting in stainless, and partially age in barrels. So, probably best not to go over the top with oak or bourbon. They ferment a percentage of their DBA in the union barrels. For the 5-gal batch I'm making now, that works out to something like 1.25oz of cubes in the primary (per CYBI). Based on that, I'd guess that for Velvet Merlin, a good start would be a ounce of oak infused with a few ounces of bourbon in secondary. Or after primary. whatever. Man, this is sounding better every day. Can't wait!

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