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Old 08-15-2013, 06:40 PM   #11
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That looks very cool. Why the Magnum at 30 minutes? I've always used it early in the boil or for FWH.
I don't know anything about the alpha acid content in the Magnum so I was thinking to put it in as middle addition. I actually keep switching the Chinook and Magnum additions Maybe I should add Magnum as FWH and Chinook at 60?

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If this is still The Sierra Nevada Pale Ale base, I've heard they put in some lemon peel... don't know if this is true.
Even if they did, I don't think I want real fruit flavor overpowering my wet hops flavor.

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Here's my plan:

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3.25 # US 2-Row
.75 # Crystal 40
1# Carapils

Single Infusion: 152F for 60 m.
Sparge at 170.

5 # Pale LME (Flame-out)
1 # Dextrose (Flame-out)

Est. OG: 1.065, TG: 1.018 (est. 6.1% abv)

Hop Schedule:

(FWH) .5 oz Magnum (18) hop pellets
(90) .25 oz Magnum (18) hop pellets
(30) 5 oz Cascade (7ish?) Fresh Wet hops
(15) 5 oz Cascade (7) Fresh Wet hops
(0) 5 oz Cascade (7) Fresh Wet Hops
(Dry-hop, 7 days) 5 oz Cascade (7) Fresh Wet Hops

Est. IBU: 57.8

1 tsp Irish Moss

2 packets SafeAle 04


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Looks like you have more wet hops than I do; I'd love to be able to add as much! The Magnum should give a nice bitterness to balance all the dextrins you add (2+ lbs). When I looked at other APA recipes I was actually surprised at the amount of crystal malts and dextrins they add so I backed off a bit. Do you think my just one pound is sufficient? All I can say is "Do it!" and report back! I'm surprised but glad that I don't see a dozen conflicting comments here
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Old 08-15-2013, 07:18 PM   #12
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I normally do pales or IPAs with my wet hops. This year, I'm changing it up at bit and doing a hoppy Amber Ale:

10lbs 2-Row
1.5lbs Munich
12 oz English Crystal
8 oz Crystal 120L
3 oz Chocolate

.8 oz Apollo @ 60
5 oz Cascade (Wet) @ 10
5 oz Cascade (Wet) @ 0 (20 min whirlpool)
5 oz Glacier (Wet) @ 0 (20 min whirlpool)
Dry Hop - 5 oz Cascade (Wet) & 5 oz Glacier (Wet)

I also have some young (1-2) Summit, Newport, and Centennial (My Chinook didn't make it this year) that aren't quite ready yet. If the Centennial is ready come dry-hop time, I will throw in some of it as well.

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I also have some young (1-2) Summit, Newport, and Centennial (My Chinook didn't make it this year) that aren't quite ready yet. If the Centennial is ready come dry-hop time, I will throw in some of it as well.
My problem right now is that my Cascade needs picking and is probably a few days past-due but my Centennial needs a few more... I'll harvest them on Saturday and brew "fresh off the bine"... Since it's my first attempt I'll only be able to say it turned out good or not but I have no comparison
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Default My first wet hop beer!

Brewed on Saturday. I didn't get quite enough wet hops so I had to supplement with pellet and some leaf hops - go figure! I decided to mix all the hops together in a Homer bucket and drop a handful in every now and then. I started adding it to the strainer bag but eventually just poured it in. Clogged my brand new Chugger pump but I got it down to temp either way (note to self: start recording actual time from flame-out to pitching). I actually didn't use the Cal Ale as in the recipe but took some of the yeast cake from my Pumpkin ale, put it in a 800 mL starter and pitched that.

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Recipe: "Hops to Blame?" - The American Way Pale Ale
Brewer: Sven
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Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 7.13 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.50 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.75 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.35 gal
Estimated OG: 1.059 SG
Estimated Color: 8.2 SRM
Estimated IBU: 41.3 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.9 %
Boil Time: 70 Minutes

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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
0.50 tsp Gypsum (Calcium Sulfate) (Mash 60.0 mins Water Agent 1 -
8 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2 64.5 %
3 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 3 25.8 %
10.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 4 4.6 %
4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L/20L (66/34) ( Grain 5 1.8 %
4.0 oz Honey Malt (25.0 SRM) Grain 6 1.8 %
3.2 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 7 1.5 %
0.50 oz Magnum [11.00 %] - First Wort 70.0 min Hop 8 17.0 IBUs
0.50 oz Chinook [11.40 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 9 17.0 IBUs
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 10 -
1.00 oz Centennial [8.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 11 5.2 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [7.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 12 2.1 IBUs
0.50 oz Cascade [7.70 %] - Boil 0.0 min Hop 13 0.0 IBUs
0.30 oz Centennial [8.70 %] - Aroma Steep 12.0 m Hop 14 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale (frozen stock) (White Lab Yeast 15 -
0.75 oz Cascade [7.70 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 16 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 9.2 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 17.01 l of water at 168.5 F 154.0 F 60 min
Mash Out Add 8.99 l of water at 199.6 F 168.0 F 10 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun, , 2.14gal) of 168.0 F water
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Hit only 150.4 with strike water. Added more but still didn't get up to 154. Took ~6 qt for a decoction and temp probably was OK. Total mash time was around 75-90 min.
Drained the mash tun almost completely before adding mash out water.
Had to add some cold water after adding sparge water to get to 7.2 gal pre-boil volume. There was probably another gal coming out to drain tun completely.

Had only 2.8 oz of wet Centennial and 4.3 oz of wet Cascade. Added 1 oz of pellet Centennial and 0.5 oz of leaf Cascade. Mixed everything together and started adding at around 12 min.

Hops clogged pump so stirred with spoon for whirlpool. Worked OK and lots of trub stayed in the kettle.

Pitched starter yeast at ~67F.
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Nice! Are the cascade hops you are dry hopping with fresh? If so, how are you going to keep them until primary is finished? Refrigerator?

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Nice! Are the cascade hops you are dry hopping with fresh? If so, how are you going to keep them until primary is finished? Refrigerator?
No, I didn't even have enough hops for the boil However, I was thinking about picking whatever hops is ready (as in: randomly left on the bines) for the dry hop and throw it in on top of probably 0.5 oz of dried whole leaf Cascade... This is experimental and will never be reproduced so I might as well go crazy!
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Checked my gravity last night with my new refractometer and it's down to 9 Brix (from 14.5). That translates to an SG (don't want to call it FG quite yet ) of ~1.020 according to this site. It tastes sweet with not much bitterness or hop aroma I'll definitely have to dry hop that beer but I also hope it will dry out some more. If not I might add some sugar to restart fermentation a bit. Never had a beer finish that high!

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This is the first year in 3 years of growing that my Hops plant has produced cones. I'm going to try a fresh hops beer but since it's the first time I'm going to be trying it, I'm adapting a kit.

I've got the Brewer's Best American Pale Ale kit, and I'll be replacing the 1oz aroma hops at the end with hopefully 5oz of my fresh hops. By their floral and citrus scent, they seem to be Cascades. Unfortunately the tag on them from the shop they were bought from only said "Hops". So I'll try this out and see how it goes.

It's been a really late year, and I'm in Southern Ontario. By the look and feel they're not quite ready yet but are getting there. Some of the cones are starting to feel less green, and there's definitely lupulin in there. Soon they should be ready.

Wish me luck!

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This is the first year in 3 years of growing that my Hops plant has produced cones. I'm going to try a fresh hops beer but since it's the first time I'm going to be trying it, I'm adapting a kit.

I've got the Brewer's Best American Pale Ale kit, and I'll be replacing the 1oz aroma hops at the end with hopefully 5oz of my fresh hops. By their floral and citrus scent, they seem to be Cascades. Unfortunately the tag on them from the shop they were bought from only said "Hops". So I'll try this out and see how it goes.

It's been a really late year, and I'm in Southern Ontario. By the look and feel they're not quite ready yet but are getting there. Some of the cones are starting to feel less green, and there's definitely lupulin in there. Soon they should be ready.

Wish me luck!
Good luck buddy! Just load up on hops and have some pellets ready to supplement. That's what I had to do. I also dry hopped with pellets. I like the label on hour rhizomes!!! That's very retro
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Good luck buddy! Just load up on hops and have some pellets ready to supplement. That's what I had to do. I also dry hopped with pellets. I like the label on hour rhizomes!!! That's very retro
I've still got the pellet hops that would have normally gone into this kit for aroma, I figure if I don't get enough fresh I'll just make up the difference with the existing ones from the kit.
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