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Default Fresh/wet hopped beer ideas

I will soon have access to fresh hops in the varieties of Cascade, Mt. Hood, BC Golding, and Fuggles.

I have never made a fresh hop beer before, and I am looking for a style/recipe that accentuates the fresh hops without requiring like 5 lbs of the things. no IIPAs I guess, :.(

Should I use a single hop variety pale ale?

what about dry hopping?

I do partial mash beers.

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IMO, you will still want to use pellets for bittering, then use the wet hops for flameout/aroma. You certainly could try dry hopping with them as well.

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I'm working on a recipe as well. I'll be lucky if I get the equivalent of 1 oz of each, Cascade and Centennial from my harvest. Trying something similar to the Sierra Nevada PA clone in Best of BYO. Will post the recipe here if interested (and when I'm finished with it).

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IMO, you will still want to use pellets for bittering, then use the wet hops for flameout/aroma. You certainly could try dry hopping with them as well.
Funnycreature and I determined that that was a good idea in another thread. I'm thinking magnum pellets... it seems to have the least amount of taste to me. That sound bout right?


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I'm working on a recipe as well. I'll be lucky if I get the equivalent of 1 oz of each, Cascade and Centennial from my harvest. Trying something similar to the Sierra Nevada PA clone in Best of BYO. Will post the recipe here if interested (and when I'm finished with it).
Please do, my friend. I love Sierra Nevada PA. From memory, it seems to have a more complex hop profile (if heavy on cascade) than I would want for my beer.

What about using a single variety for flavoring and aroma?
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Funnycreature and I determined that that was a good idea in another thread. I'm thinking magnum pellets... it seems to have the least amount of taste to me. That sound bout right?

Please do, my friend. I love Sierra Nevada PA. From memory, it seems to have a more complex hop profile (if heavy on cascade) than I would want for my beer.

What about using a single variety for flavoring and aroma?
OK, here's my plan:
  1. I am drying ~3 oz of Magnum right now which will end up maybe just over 0.5 oz. I'll throw that in as FWH. As additional bittering hops I was thinking 0.5 oz of chinook pellets at 30 min. These will add up to about 37 IBU in a 90 min boil.
  2. If I get the 1 oz of each Centennial and Cascade I'll add them at 5 and 0 min, respectively.
  3. I'll dry hop with 0.75 oz of (purchased) Cascade leaf hops

I'd try a single hops beer but I don't think I'll have enough! Here's a recipe for Hoptime harvest by Russian River: http://www.musiccitybrewers.com/docs/hoptime.pdf
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OK, here's my plan:
  1. I am drying ~3 oz of Magnum right now which will end up maybe just over 0.5 oz. I'll throw that in as FWH. As additional bittering hops I was thinking 0.5 oz of chinook pellets at 30 min. These will add up to about 37 IBU in a 90 min boil.
  2. If I get the 1 oz of each Centennial and Cascade I'll add them at 5 and 0 min, respectively.
  3. I'll dry hop with 0.75 oz of (purchased) Cascade leaf hops

I'd try a single hops beer but I don't think I'll have enough! Here's a recipe for Hoptime harvest by Russian River: http://www.musiccitybrewers.com/docs/hoptime.pdf
Are you planning on the Centennial and Cascade late additions to be 1 oz Fresh? Will that be enough since it is only the equivalent of 0.2 oz dried?

That Russian River recipe looks cool... though I don't think I would bitter the beer with Fresh hops. I guess if you have the set up for it, whatever
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Lupulin effects

Lupulin has the same sedative effects as hop, but due to the sifting it is stronger.
Gives an mild high with relaxing qualities. Works well as a relaxation for the nerves and provides a better sleep.

The powder is used in a medical manner for delirium tremens, wakefulness, anxiety and exhaustion. It allays irritation and promotes sleep.

It is a sedative belonging to the same category as valerian, skullcap and passion flower.
Preparing Lupulin

To prepare some tea: mix 150 ml of cooked water with 1 teaspoon of Lupulin. Because the taste is bitter you can add some honey. Use about 0,5 grams for 1 cup of tea. 1 teaspoon is about 0,4 grams.
From: http://azarius.net/smartshop/relaxing/herbs/lupulin/

I found this googling around. Lapulin is, apparently, one of the tastes you get from fresh hops you don't from dried.

Pretty funny, huh?
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Are you planning on the Centennial and Cascade late additions to be 1 oz Fresh? Will that be enough since it is only the equivalent of 0.2 oz dried?

That Russian River recipe looks cool... though I don't think I would bitter the beer with Fresh hops. I guess if you have the set up for it, whatever
No this is assumed 1oz equivalent of dried hops I'm sure that the big boys can determine the acids content very quickly. So they won't just blindly use a fixed around of hops.
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So here's the recipe in its current state:

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Recipe: "Hops to Blame?" - The American Way Pale Ale
Brewer: Sven
Asst Brewer:
Style: American Pale Ale
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (30.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Boil Size: 7.31 gal
Post Boil Volume: 6.50 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.75 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.35 gal
Estimated OG: 1.058 SG
Estimated Color: 7.7 SRM
Estimated IBU: 36.4 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 68.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 73.9 %
Boil Time: 90 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
8 lbs 12.0 oz Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 1 65.4 %
3 lbs 8.0 oz Pale Malt, Maris Otter (3.0 SRM) Grain 2 26.2 %
10.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3 4.7 %
4.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4 1.9 %
4.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L/20L (66/34) ( Grain 5 1.9 %
0.50 oz Chinook [11.40 %] - First Wort 90.0 min Hop 6 20.4 IBUs
0.50 oz Magnum [11.00 %] - Boil 30.0 min Hop 7 11.7 IBUs
1.00 tsp Irish Moss (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 8 -
1.00 oz Cascade [7.70 %] - Boil 5.0 min Hop 9 4.2 IBUs
1.00 oz Centennial [8.70 %] - Aroma Steep 0.0 mi Hop 10 0.0 IBUs
1.0 pkg California Ale (frozen stock) (White Lab Yeast 11 -
0.75 oz Cascade [7.70 %] - Dry Hop 4.0 Days Hop 12 0.0 IBUs


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body
Total Grain Weight: 13 lbs 6.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 16.77 l of water at 165.3 F 154.0 F 60 min
Mash Out Add 8.86 l of water at 198.1 F 168.0 F 10 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun, , 2.40gal) of 168.0 F water
I got 0.9 oz of Magnum hops that felt very dry so that' only about 1/3rd of the picked hops. Seems very little water but the hops felt pretty dry to me. Not sure what the yield for Centennial and Cascade will be but I'll sure use it up late in the game!
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That looks very cool. Why the Magnum at 30 minutes? I've always used it early in the boil or for FWH.

If this is still The Sierra Nevada Pale Ale base, I've heard they put in some lemon peel... don't know if this is true.

Here's my plan:

Mini-Mash:

3.25 # US 2-Row
.75 # Crystal 40
1# Carapils

Single Infusion: 152F for 60 m.
Sparge at 170.

5 # Pale LME (Flame-out)
1 # Dextrose (Flame-out)

Est. OG: 1.065, TG: 1.018 (est. 6.1% abv)

Hop Schedule:

(FWH) .5 oz Magnum (18) hop pellets
(90) .25 oz Magnum (18) hop pellets
(30) 5 oz Cascade (7ish?) Fresh Wet hops
(15) 5 oz Cascade (7) Fresh Wet hops
(0) 5 oz Cascade (7) Fresh Wet Hops
(Dry-hop, 7 days) 5 oz Cascade (7) Fresh Wet Hops

Est. IBU: 57.8

1 tsp Irish Moss

2 packets SafeAle 04


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