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peb4peb · 07-18-2012, 09:58 PM

I contacted the brewer about the beer and his reply was that they use barley, corn, oats, and wheat along with crystal, simcoe, and amarillo hops. I haven't tried to brew it yet. Hopefully someone can construct a recipe from the info

brewski09 · 07-19-2012, 08:01 AM

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Originally Posted by peb4peb

I contacted the brewer about the beer and his reply was that they use barley, corn, oats, and wheat along with crystal, simcoe, and amarillo hops. I haven't tried to brew it yet. Hopefully someone can construct a recipe from the info

any chance you could post the actual text of the email? thx

brewski09 · 07-19-2012, 08:11 AM

Updated Recipe SG=1.048 @75% Efficiency FG=1.012 SRM=6 IBU=43.2 using Rager ABV=4.8%

6lb 15oz Briess 2-row Pale (78%)
1lb 2oz Briess Caramel 20L (13%)
4oz Briess Red Wheat Malt (3%)
4oz Flaked Oats (3%)
4oz Flaked Maize (Corn) (3%)
Mash at a low temp like 148 for 1 hour.

I don't really get the point of using the flaked corn and the flaked oats at the same time. The corn thins the beer and lightens the mouthfeel while the oats thicken the beer and makes the mouthfeel more viscous. Whatever, still a good beer when its fresh. If you want to, double the flaked oats and corn to 8oz each and drop the 2-row to 6lb 7oz.

Hop Schedule
0.25oz Simcoe 60 minutes
0.5oz Simcoe 30 minutes
0.25oz Amarillo 30 minutes
0.75oz Amarillo 8 minutes Dryhop
0.5oz Amarillo 7 days
0.5oz Simcoe 7 days

WLP001 California Ale

I am going to use a very small gypsum addition next time i brew this (literally 1/4 teaspoon for a 5 gallon batch) as I already have pretty good IPA/Pale Ale water. Just something to consider if you are interested.

Extract version does not include wheat or flaked adjuncts, but should still be relatively close. Use 2 cans of Briess CBW Golden Light Extract (1.5kg per can) and 6oz Briess 20L steeped at 150-160F for 30-60 minutes.

**sctocinci** · 07-19-2012, 01:55 PM

Where would the crystal hops go? Worth bothering with them?

**KISS Brew** · 07-19-2012, 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sctocinci

Where would the crystal hops go? Worth bothering with them?

They'd probably be an aroma addition, possibly part of the dry hop. I'd probably skip them if I had all the other ingredients, but they would definitely add something significant to the aroma.

peb4peb · 07-19-2012, 02:14 PM

Here is the email from the brewer

“Thanks for taking the time to write. We are very committed to making great beer and it always great to hear that people enjoy it. Unfortunately, we cannot share recipe or process details on our beers, but we do wish you all the best on your quest to recreate our All Day IPA. As they say, “The Journey is the Reward”.”

I can say (I think) that we use corn, oats, wheat and barley to 4.7% abv, and hop with crystal, simcoe and amarillo to 42 ibus. I am sure you understand and hope you still enjoy our beers. Thanks again!

Cheers,

Alec

brewski09 · 07-20-2012, 07:43 AM

i'm not sure what the crystal hops add to the beer. maybe that's what i thought i picked up as centennial ??? i'd have to brew a batch with crystal to see how it turned out and where i would want to use them. doing a chinook single hop soon. maybe i'll do a crystal single hop after that...

**BrewmeisterSmith** · 01-18-2013, 01:12 AM

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Originally Posted by brewski09

Updated Recipe SG=1.048 @75% Efficiency FG=1.012 SRM=6 IBU=43.2 using Rager ABV=4.8%

6lb 15oz Briess 2-row Pale (78%)
1lb 2oz Briess Caramel 20L (13%)
4oz Briess Red Wheat Malt (3%)
4oz Flaked Oats (3%)
4oz Flaked Maize (Corn) (3%)
Mash at a low temp like 148 for 1 hour.

I don't really get the point of using the flaked corn and the flaked oats at the same time. The corn thins the beer and lightens the mouthfeel while the oats thicken the beer and makes the mouthfeel more viscous. Whatever, still a good beer when its fresh. If you want to, double the flaked oats and corn to 8oz each and drop the 2-row to 6lb 7oz.

Hop Schedule
0.25oz Simcoe 60 minutes
0.5oz Simcoe 30 minutes
0.25oz Amarillo 30 minutes
0.75oz Amarillo 8 minutes Dryhop
0.5oz Amarillo 7 days
0.5oz Simcoe 7 days

WLP001 California Ale

I am going to use a very small gypsum addition next time i brew this (literally 1/4 teaspoon for a 5 gallon batch) as I already have pretty good IPA/Pale Ale water. Just something to consider if you are interested.

Extract version does not include wheat or flaked adjuncts, but should still be relatively close. Use 2 cans of Briess CBW Golden Light Extract (1.5kg per can) and 6oz Briess 20L steeped at 150-160F for 30-60 minutes.

So, did you brew this revised recipe? Any tasting notes? Just curious how close it came to the real thing.

brewski09 · 01-19-2013, 10:12 PM

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Originally Posted by BrewmeisterSmith

So, did you brew this revised recipe? Any tasting notes? Just curious how close it came to the real thing.

I was just trying to figure out what I was going to brew next. I think it will be this (withing the next 2 weeks).

New recipe notes - I had a really nice pale that used Citra in the dry hops and got some great tangerine notes out of it. The rate was 0.5oz/5gal. I would maybe back down a little off of that, but it could be a good addition if this next batch isn't right (not going to do it in the next one). As far as the Crystal hops go, I would say up to 0.25oz at flame out and maybe a 45-60 minute bittering addition, though I am not sure I would mess with the Simcoe there. I'll stew over it until I brew this and see if I decide to pick up some new hops, or just go with what we have so far.

Thanks for the motivation to brew this again

brewski09 · 02-17-2013, 01:10 AM

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Originally Posted by sctocinci

Where would the crystal hops go? Worth bothering with them?

Doing a single hop pale ale with Crystal right now. Just wow so far. I have to say this is a nice, undervalued low alpha hop. I am updating my recipe and will be brewing very soon. the Crystal is going to be a flavor and aroma addition for sure, maybe some dry hops (see how it turns out). Very, very nice hop.