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Old 10-29-2013, 02:09 PM   #1
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Default First time recipe double IPA

Hi all,

This will be my first attempt in formulating a new recipe from stratch. My wife loves double ipa and requesting me to make her favorite beer style. Here This my first recipe idea. Please comment on the recipe that I chose. Thanks.

Batch Size: 5.25 gal Style: Imperial IPA ()
Boil Size: 6.74 gal Style Guide: BJCP 2008
Color: 10.7 SRM Equipment: 11 gal pot and 10 gal cooler
Bitterness: 90.9 IBUs Boil Time: 60 min
Est OG: 1.074 (17.9° P) Mash Profile: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Est FG: 1.014 SG (3.6° P) Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
ABV: 7.9% Taste Rating: 30.0



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5.00 gal Deer Park (R), Bottled Water Water 1
13 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L (60.0 SRM) Grain 3
1 lbs Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 4
1.2 oz Sticklebract [13.5%] - First Wort Hops 5
0.5 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Boil 30 min Hops 6
0.5 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Boil 30 min Hops 7
1.5 oz Pacific Jade [13.0%] - Boil 5 min Hops 8
1.5 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Boil 5 min Hops 9
1 pkgs Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 10
0.5 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 11
0.5 oz Pacific Jade [13.0%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 12
0.5 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 13



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Old 10-29-2013, 07:12 PM   #2
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This is in the ballpark, but I would do a few things:

*cut the crystal down a bit, and consider using 40 instead of 60 (so, e.g., half a pound of 40L). If it's too sweet, especially once the initial extreme bitterness and hop aroma tails off, you may be disappointed. But this is a matter of some opinion--some people like their IPAs a bit sweeter, with a caramel note.
*consider adding a little carapils or flaked grain for head retention.
*depending on your (or your wife's) bitterness preferences, consider upping the bittering hops. 90 IBUs for a beer that strong isn't really so high.
*probably double the dry hop amounts to really get a strong kick.



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Old 10-31-2013, 01:47 AM   #3
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Ok, I change the crystal to 40L (.75lb) and added 0.5 lb carapils.

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Old 10-31-2013, 01:51 AM   #4
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Ok i change crystal to 3/4 lb 40L and added 0.5 carapils. Any other suggestions to the recipe?

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I'd pitch 2 packets of yeast (I do for anything over 1060)

Also agree you should double up the dry hops. I like splitting them into two additions at least 3 days apart.

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Old 11-01-2013, 12:24 PM   #6
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I was thinking adding 2 pack of dry yeast. Mom going to double the dry hops. Thanks!!!

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Old 11-01-2013, 06:01 PM   #7
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Batch Size: 5.25 gal / Boil Size: 6.74 gal
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5.00 gal Deer Park (R), Bottled Water
I would recommend making sure the start water volume is good enough. With all the grain and hops used in a double IPA, you lose a lot more water than originally anticipated. A big ol' cake of yeast sitting at the bottom of the carboy further reduces bottling volume.

Are you treating your water? It is not wise to use untreated spring water for brewing all-grain.

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1.014 SG, 1 packet Safale US-05
I recommend a starter with liquid yeast. A starter of WLP090 or WLP001 should get you lower than this, assuming the rest of your fermentation practices are sound.

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13 lbs 2 Row
1 lbs Caramel/Crystal Malt - 60L
1 lbs Munich Malt - 20L
81% 2-Row
7% Munich Malt 10L
4% White Wheat
4% Crystal 30L
4% Corn sugar

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1.2 oz Sticklebract [13.5%] - First Wort
0.5 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Boil 30 min
0.5 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Boil 30 min
1.5 oz Pacific Jade [13.0%] - Boil 5 min
1.5 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Boil 5 min
0.5 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Dry Hop 7 days
0.5 oz Pacific Jade [13.0%] - Dry Hop 7 days
0.5 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Dry Hop 7 days
Need more hops than 6.7 total oz. for this particular style. Like double that amount.

Use pellet hops with the following schedule:

1) Achieve your total desired IBUs, using anywhere from 10-40% of your total recipe hops by weight for the early and/or middle additions. Skip the FWH. Do a traditional bitter for this style. Don't be afraid of IBUs.

2) Use between 25-40% of your total recipe hops by weight for the warm hopstand after the boil.

3) Use between 40-50% of your total recipe hops by weight for the dryhop.

Bittering power is best gained with early additions. Intoxicating flavor/aroma is best gained during the hopstand/dryhop. This is the reason I tend to nix additions from 20-5 minutes in my IIPAs. You're just wasting hops on a weakened form of bitterness, flavor, and aroma. It isn't rounding things out at all for such a robust style like the American IIPA.
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Old 11-03-2013, 10:57 PM   #8
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After further review, it look like I need to revise the recipe. I will be back with updated version. Stay tuned!!! Thanks everyone for the feedback.

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Old 11-04-2013, 09:29 PM   #9
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Here is the update version of the recipe that I'm trying to create. I added carapils, increase the hops and change the times, and also cut back on the crystal to 40L. Please feel free to give any more pointers to this virgin double ipa recipe.

Batch Size: 5.25 gal Style: Imperial IPA ()
Boil Size: 6.74 gal Style Guide: BJCP 2008
Color: 8.0 SRM Equipment: 11 gal pot and 10 gal cooler
Bitterness: 100.8 IBUs Boil Time: 60 min
Est OG: 1.076 (18.2° P) Mash Profile: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Est FG: 1.015 SG (3.7° P) Fermentation: Ale, Two Stage
ABV: 8.1% Taste Rating: 30.0



Ingredients


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5.00 gal Deer Park (R), Bottled Water Water 1
13 lbs Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 2
1 lbs 1.6 oz Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 3
8.0 oz Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40.0 SRM) Grain 4
12.0 oz Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 5
1.5 oz Sticklebract [13.5%] - Boil 60 min Hops 6
1.0 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Boil 15 min Hops 7
1.0 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Boil 15 min Hops 8
1.0 oz Pacific Jade [13.0%] - Boil 15 min Hops 9
1.0 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Boil 0 min Hops 10
1.0 oz Pacific Jade [13.0%] - Boil 0 min Hops 11
1.0 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Boil 0 min Hops 12
2 pkgs Safale American (DCL/Fermentis #US-05) Yeast 13
1.0 oz Simcoe [13.0%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 14
1.0 oz Pacific Jade [13.0%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 15
1.0 oz Amarillo Gold [8.5%] - Dry Hop 7 days Hops 16

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Old 11-05-2013, 02:46 AM   #10
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1.014 FG is too high for an Imperial IPA IMO. I personally would go for a light body mash at 148-150F. Most of the top rated commercial Imperial IPAs finish at 1.011 or less as well.

Just a suggestion.



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