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Old 12-07-2007, 06:03 AM   #1
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First attempt at developing a recipe, still using mainly extract. What do you think?

Brewer: brian Email: -
Beer: howard street pale Style: American Pale Ale
Type: Extract w/grain Size: 5 gallons
Color:
9 HCU (~7 SRM)
Bitterness: 16 IBU
OG: 1.059 FG: 1.016
Alcohol: 5.6% v/v (4.4% w/w)

Grain: 1 lb. Dextrine malt (Cara-Pils)
.5 lb. American 2-row
Steep: steep for 15 min. at 155 F

Boil: 60 minutes SG 1.084 3.5 gallons
5 lb. Light malt extract
2 lb. Light dry malt extract

Hops:
.5 oz. Willamette (5% AA, 60 min.)
.5 oz. Willamette (5% AA, 30 min.)
.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 15 min.)
.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 5 min.)
Yeast: 1056

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Old 12-07-2007, 06:35 AM   #2
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For what it's worth it is not bitter enough. Willamette is a great hop so save those for the end and bitter it with something more powerful. American Pales should 30-45 IBU's. The Carapils will not add any flavor to the brew, it is used for head retention mainly. Why not add a bit of Crystal malt and some Victory if it is available.

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Old 12-07-2007, 03:50 PM   #3
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Agreed on all accounts. Unless Willamette and Cascades are all you have available, get something with a higher AA% for bittering. Something with 7-8% will do, if you don't want to deal with the very high alpha hops (and I don't blame you one bit if you do). Perle is one of my favorite hops for bittering, and it falls in that 7-8% range (if you can find it right now). With the OG you are looking at, you probably want your IBUs in the 40-45 range.

Strike the half pound of 2-row that you steep. That won't do you much good. Use a half a pound or pound of 40L crystal, instead. If you are very concerned about color, maybe go with the 20L crystal, or split a pound between the 20L and 40L.


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Old 12-07-2007, 08:43 PM   #4
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Alright, took those post into account and remade the recipe. How does it sound now?

Brewer: brian Email: -
Beer: howard st. pale Style: American Pale Ale
Type: Extract w/grain Size: 5 gallons
Color:
17 HCU (~10 SRM)

Bitterness: 40 IBU

OG: 1.059 FG: 1.016
Alcohol: 5.6% v/v (4.4% w/w)
Grain: 1 lb. American crystal 20L
.5 lb. American crystal 40L
Boil: 60 minutes SG 1.085 3.5 gallons
5 lb. Light malt extract
2 lb. Light dry malt extract

Hops: 1 oz. Perle (8% AA, 60 min.)
.75 oz. Perle (8% AA, 45 min.)
0.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 15 min.)
0.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 5 min.)
Yeast: 1056

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Old 12-07-2007, 09:05 PM   #5
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Maybe just me but it seems that should be steeped longer than 15 min. But maybe Im Wrong.

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Now you've got too much crystal malt. I recognize that you want to experiment with specialty grains, but they should be used in smaller amounts; remember, you are not getting any fermentables from these.

I would recommend 1/2lb crystal 40 or 60 to give you some body, flavor, and color. For a pale ale that should really be it. Steep for 20 minutes.

Why the 2 different extracts? I'd recommend going all DME but that's just me. Either way, no need to use DME and LME in this recipe, just pick one.

Hops looks good.

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Now you've got too much crystal malt. I recognize that you want to experiment with specialty grains, but they should be used in smaller amounts; remember, you are not getting any fermentables from these.

I would recommend 1/2lb crystal 40 or 60 to give you some body, flavor, and color. For a pale ale that should really be it. Steep for 20 minutes.

Why the 2 different extracts? I'd recommend going all DME but that's just me. Either way, no need to use DME and LME in this recipe, just pick one.

Hops looks good.
I agree with cutting back on the Crystal. This recipe starts to look like Sierra Nevada with the hops and .5 Crystal 40.
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Agreed on cutting back on the crystal. In order to achieve the 10 SRM, you won't need much. Why not just do 2 oz Perle for bittering and then flavor/aroma (15 min/1 min)? Perle is a good hop, but have you thought about N. Brewer? I've made pales with both and they have turned out good. Definitely go with 1056.

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cool. sounds good, i'll cut back on the specialty and consider going all DME, thanks everyone

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also, if this is a partial boil, consider adding half your DME up front, and saving half until the last 15 minutes.

late extract addition - makes sure you get good hop utilization in a partial boil.

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