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Old 10-26-2009, 01:37 AM   #1
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Default First AG brew, I bought grain..what shoud I make?

Well, I bought some grain this weekend but I am not sure what to make. Here is what I bought.

10# Wyermans German Pale 2 row
3 # Cara Amber
3# American Chocolote

I also have 2 packs coopers dry ale yeast, a package of US-05 and a nice S-04 yeast cake from an IPA. I have 3 ounces of Northern Brewer hops and an ounce of cascade as well.

I was thinking something like

8# German Pale
2# Cara Amber
4 0z chocolate

1 oz Northern Brewer @60
1 oz cascade at 10 minutes or so

some sort of Amber Ale....

I also think I may have enough IBU's and Dark Malt to try an Imperial Stout? Maybe I just play it safe with a simple ale..what do the experts think?

I will be single infusion mashing with a double batch sparge.

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Old 10-26-2009, 02:58 AM   #2
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You'll need a few extra grains if you intend on doing a stout. I like the recipe you've got there, but it's not an amber. You'd have to go much lower on the cara-amber and the chocolate. Otherwise it'll be fairly dark. You probably have a good American Brown Ale as is.

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Old 10-26-2009, 03:06 AM   #3
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Maybe I just cut the chocolate out all together and just go with the pale and the amber, to get a lighter ale? I think IBU's will be in the 40-42 range in this configuration according to the software I plugged it into. This is on the low end for a brown ale...so maybe my ingredients are better suited for a simple amber? It looks like I bought a little bit too much chocolate malt! oh well.

8# german pale
2# cara amber

1oz northern brewer at 60 minutes
1 oz cascade at 10 minutes


sounds pretty simple to me, but I bet it would be good. Maybe a nice dry hop in secondary.

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I threw some numbers into some software. This looks good to me.

Brewer: - Permo Email: -
Beer: - Style: American Amber Ale
Type: All grain Size: 5 gallons
Color: 29 HCU (~15 SRM) Bitterness: 36 IBU
OG: 1.055 FG: 1.012
Alcohol: 5.5% v/v (4.3% w/w)
Grain: 7 lb. german pale
3 lb. cara amber
1 oz. American chocolate
Mash: 75% efficiency
Boil: minutes SG 1.045 6 gallons
Hops: 1 oz. Northern Brewer (8.5% AA, 60 min.)
.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 15 min.)
.5 oz. Cascade (aroma)

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I just wanted to point out that CaraAmber is a specialty malt. You seem to be trying to use it as a base malt. I would not suggest using more than 1-1.5lbs. of this stuff. Aside from the fact that using this much CaraAmber will result in a brown beer (not amber), it's a crystal malt and shouldn't be used for more than 15-20% of your grist.

If it were me and I did a basic Amber recipe with what you've got...

9# 2-row
1# CaraAmber
1oz. Chocolate

Cascades are a perfect fit for amber ales.

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Here is the modifed recipe - I had to add another ounce of chocolate to get the color dark enough to fit the style

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Beer: Ringneck American Ale Style: American Amber Ale
Type: All grain Size: 5 gallons
Color: 18 HCU (~11 SRM)
Bitterness: 35 IBU
OG: 1.057 FG: 1.012
Alcohol: 5.8% v/v (4.5% w/w)
Grain: 9 lb. German Pale 2 Row
1 lb. Cara Amber
2 oz. American chocolate
Mash: 75% efficiency
Boil: minutes SG 1.047 6 gallons
Hops: 1 oz. Northern Brewer (8.5% AA, 60 min.)
.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 15 min.)
.5 oz. Cascade (aroma)

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Here is the modifed recipe - I had to add another ounce of chocolate to get the color dark enough to fit the style

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Beer: Ringneck American Ale Style: American Amber Ale
Type: All grain Size: 5 gallons
Color: 18 HCU (~11 SRM)
Bitterness: 35 IBU
OG: 1.057 FG: 1.012
Alcohol: 5.8% v/v (4.5% w/w)
Grain: 9 lb. German Pale 2 Row
1 lb. Cara Amber
2 oz. American chocolate
Mash: 75% efficiency
Boil: minutes SG 1.047 6 gallons
Hops: 1 oz. Northern Brewer (8.5% AA, 60 min.)
.5 oz. Cascade (6% AA, 15 min.)
.5 oz. Cascade (aroma)

THis is the recipe I was shooting for. My first AG recipe ever...talk about a GLORIOUS smell in the house. I mashed with 3.5 gallons at 151 degrees that went down to 147 after 60 minutes..single infusion... I then sparged 2 gallons twice (four gallons total) just simply mixing the hot water in and draining.....I had about 6 gallons of wort at the end.

I only have a 5 gallon brewpot so I had to use some smaller pots too...regardless at the end I ended up with 5.5 gallons of OG = 1.45 brew...nice color...US-05 is pitched. It was a great process....and so darned easy.

I think if I would have boiled longer to get down to 5.0 gallons I would have approached 1.050...very close to target.

The worst part is I just noticed now that my digital thermometer wasnn't calibrated correctly..it reads about 10 degrees warm...so I mashed and sparged very cool....but got decent results.


I can't wait for next weekend.....AG rules.

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Looks good. Let us know how it turns out.

Did you boil the same amount in each pot? If not, your hop utilization may be a bit different than you think.

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Looks good. Let us know how it turns out.

Did you boil the same amount in each pot? If not, your hop utilization may be a bit different than you think.

I was able to fit 6 gallons into my main pot, and I had a little over a gallon of runnings that I couldn't fit in there. So as the main 6 gallon pot evaporated I incorporated the other gallon or so into the main pot during the course of the boil.

I calculated my hop schedule and IBU based on a 6 gallon boil so I should be in great shape. 12 hours later a little pressure is building in the fermenter, so it looks like the US-05 is going to take off soon.
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Well, I just racked this to secondary today. I snuck a taste and man is it good. Toasty, roasty with a little bitterness and good aroma. I racked onto an ounce of leaf saaz just because.

US-05 pulled it down to 1.009 in 6 days. I think FG will likely hit 1.007 or so. I am thinking this will end up being like New Belgium Skinny dip with a little more backbone. Nice.

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