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Old 04-17-2013, 08:28 PM   #1
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Just getting around to posting a recipe I drew up a while back.

What do y'all think?

Style: Imperial Stout
Type: All Grain
Calories: 283
OG:1.086
FG: 1.021
ABV: 8.51%
IBU's: 74
SRM:44

Batch Size: 5.25 gallons

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2-Row Pale Malt- 16 lbs.-87.7%
Chocolate Malt- 1 lb.- 5.5%
Roasted Barley- .75 lb. - 4.1%
Special B- .5 lb. - 2.8%

Hops:
Nugget 13%- 70 min
EKG 5 %- 20 min

Yeast

Either Nottingham, Windsor or WLP 002


I was thinking about adding some crystal 20 or 60 and some crystal. I want the stout to be big roast and complex.

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Old 04-17-2013, 08:38 PM   #2
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Looks pretty good, but I say BIGGER! Why not shoot for 1.10, you're so close now? Add a couple of lbs of DME or LME to get you there if your mash tun is full. Might as well go Maris Otter for the base (if you weren't already). If you want big roast, I would swap your chocolate and Roasted Barley weights around.

You can also get away with quite a bit in an RIS. I threw a lil of everything in mine (8 oz oats, 6 oz of C80, 1 oz of coarse ground coffee in secondary for 24 hrs, 1.5 oz of US med oak/3 oz scotch). Damn if it didn't blend into a tasty treat about 10 months from brew date.

Also I would not go Windsor, it will poop out too early. Something that attenuates well with high alcohol tolerance. You'll have a lot of unfermentables in there. I would pitch onto a previous cake, or pitch a massive starter.

If you do go bigger, adding another oz of Nugget as FWH will help balance out the massive malt bill. I was initially worried mine was too bitter (90 IBU), but it seems just right now.



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Cool thanks for the feedback! I'm gonna bump it up a little with some crystal but I don't want to set my yeast up for failure by getting that high of an O.G. I don't have an aeration system beside shaking and I wanna get it below 1.03.

Any other suggestions?

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Old 04-18-2013, 03:23 AM   #4
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If you want good attenuation and a higher OG, I suggest adding some dark brown sugar, it will almost completely ferment and add an extra layer of complexity from the molasses.

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Old 04-18-2013, 06:40 AM   #5
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The grain bill looks fine, unless you wanted to go bigger. MO is a fine base malt, but I would save it for a lighter style where its contributions won't be obscured. If you want heavy on the roast, you might throw in some black patent. Another option is to use a lighter roasted grain like victory, amber or brown malt (you can do those in your oven if you want). Some flaked grain will increase mouthfeel, if that's what you want.

I might skip the 20 minute hop addition; most of the flavor will dissipate during the long aging. But the extra tannins you get from low-alpha hops will provide a longer-lasting bitterness than the IBUs from high-alpha hops, so bittering with EKG is a viable option. I'd use WLP002 as your initial yeast, then add the nottingham when the 002 slows down. You'll get the flavor complexity of 002 and the attenuation of nottingham.

Or you could just brew the best stout I've ever had: http://barclayperkins.blogspot.ca/2012/02/lets-brew-wednesday-1914-courage.html

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Ok here is what I ended up with. Still looking for any feed back and thanks for everyones help so far.


OG: 1.100
FG: 1.024
ABV:9.69%
IBU:91

Grain:
2-row-18lb 84.7%
Chocolate Malt- 1 lb- 4.7%
Roasted Barley- .75 lb- 3.5%
Special B- .5 lb- 2.35%
Crystal 60- .25lb- 1.2%
Black Patent-.75lb-3.5%

Hops:
Nugget 13% 2 oz. at 60 min.
Nugget 13% 1 oz. at 40 min.
EKG 5% 1 oz. at 20 min.

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I'll go ahead and bump this just to see

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