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Old 09-29-2005, 08:48 AM   #11
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Just received my copy of Beer Captured. The recipe in there calls for 8lb. Belgian two-row, Crystal 80L, Munich Malt, Victory Malt and Biscuit Malt. The grain base looks fairly similar to the above posted recipes. Hops are a little different. Magnum for bittering, Hallertau Hersbrucker for flavor and Williamette for aroma. All three agree on the Aroma hops. Hope this is useful.

Cool...Curious what the IBUs are for that recipe in Beer Captured?
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Old 09-29-2005, 12:04 PM   #12
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Cool...Curious what the IBUs are for that recipe in Beer Captured?
IBUs = 21
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Old 09-29-2005, 06:04 PM   #13
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IBUs = 21

Ouch. I'm sure the New Belgium version is somewhere along those lines as well.
Being the hop-head that I am--I want it amped up a little. With promash, I got 36. The owner of the recipe I'm using says it holds bitterness well, and he got 37 when he did it. I'm sticking with that ballpark.

FWIW--here's the hops bill that I'll be using:

1 oz. Willamette 60 mins
1 oz. Fuggles 30 mins
1 oz. Fuggles 15 mins
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Old 10-03-2005, 12:46 AM   #14
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6.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) Bel (3 SRM) Grain 58.5 %
2.00 lb Amber Malt (22 SRM) Grain 19.5 %
1.00 lb Munich Malt (9 SRM) Grain 9.8 %
0.50 lb Biscuit Malt (23 SRM) Grain 4.9 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 10L (10 SRM) Grain 2.4 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 40L (40 SRM) Grain 2.4 %
0.25 lb Special Roast (50 SRM) Grain 2.4 %


Hmmmm... I went to the LHBS to get some of the speciality grains here, and was told that biscuit malt and special roast were the exact same thing; special was the american name and biscuit was the british name.

What gives there? I don't know any better, honestly (I only recently stopped using kits) so I just grabbed a bag and left.... confused.

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Old 10-03-2005, 02:40 PM   #15
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I'm pretty sure biscuit and special are two different animals, although both are pale roasted and the flavors are perhaps similar enough that you could make a substitution. I would have thought victory would be a better substitute than special.

I assume you're talking about American Brewmasters? I know I've bought biscuit there in the past.

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I assume you're talking about American Brewmasters? I know I've bought biscuit there in the past.
Yeah... AmBrew is where I went. The bags are labeld "biscuit", but the paper sign on the big box that holds the pre-measured 1lb bags says:
"Biscuit Malt or Special Roast. Special Roast is the american name, and Biscuit is the English name."
Looking around on the web, I have found places that sell both, and they say that Special Roast is similar to biscuit. One other place that sells both describes biscuit as leaving (duh) a 'breadlike' character and special roast as leaving a 'nutty' flavor.

I guess if I want special roast, I'm going to have to get it somewhere other tham American Brewmaster.

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I see...I probably just saw the one sign and bought it as biscuit. In any case, this page:
www.foamrangers.com/malts.html
certainly indicates they are different.

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FYI....I read elsewhere that the Beer Captured recipe recommends a Belgian yeast strain. I'm not at home, so I can't verify that at the moment.

From the other clone recipes I've seen, Belgian yeast is not recommended by those who say they have successfully cloned it. They say it isn't even close, matter of fact.

I've never had Fat Tire, so I've no first-hand knowledge, just passing on what I've read.

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I'm pretty sure biscuit and special are two different animals, although both are pale roasted and the flavors are perhaps similar enough that you could make a substitution. I would have thought victory would be a better substitute than special.

I assume you're talking about American Brewmasters? I know I've bought biscuit there in the past.

I'm pretty sure they are different to. To take that even further, I've read before that american and british versions of crystal malts are completely different animals as well.

Unfortunately my palate isn't really trained enough to really know the difference in a lot of stuff....gotta keep drinking!!!!
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Unfortunately my palate isn't really trained enough to really know the difference in a lot of stuff....gotta keep drinking!!!!
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