amcclai7

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I am about to brew a beer that calls for Maris Otter as the base malt with small amounts of 80L crystal, wheat flakes and choc malt. Right now I can get american 2-row for almost nothing and Maris Otter will cost me almost 3 times as much!

My question is this: If I have a recipe that calls for 10lbs of OM what could I do to help my 2-row base grain replicate OM as closely as possible?

Should I up the amount of crystal? substitute some victory for some of the 2-row, or perhaps do the same thing but with vienna, or munich, or all three?

I have no idea of what to do. If someone could give me their suggestion of how to allocate the grain (for example instead of 10lbs 2-row, use 8lbs 2-row, 1lbs vienna and 1lbs munich) I would be very greatful.

I realize that I am not going to get an exact match of the MO flavor profile this way, I just want something that will be in the same ballpark.

Thanks!

sudsmcgee

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Good question. I'd like to know this as well. I have MO, but it would be good to have alternatives.

E-Mursed

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Can you get in on this group buy....

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f174/tennessee-group-grain-buy-round-1-2012-a-293988/

Where are you getting 2-row for "next to nothing"...and how close to nothing are you talking.

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amcclai7

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Thanks for the link, I actually know one of the guys on that thread personally.

$.50/lb, a local brewery sells bags of 2-row for that price.

E-Mursed

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DAMN...!!!!

Note to self: Make friend with guy at brewery.

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You might be a nurse if you firmly believe that "too stupid to live" should be a diagnosis.

stevedasleeve

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Try adding a little Victory/biscuit and some Munich to your 2-row. I like MO a lot and am willing to pay for it but I'd go that route if I was a cheap bastard, probably.

sudsmcgee

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Thanks. Any idea on percentages?

ArcaneXor

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+1 on Victory, around 3-5% of the grist as a starting point.

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amcclai7

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Thanks. Would you also recommend adding some munich as stevedasleeve suggested?

sudsmcgee

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I think this would be an awesome experiment to figure out. Has anyone done a smash MO/2-Row comparison?