Spike Brewing 12.5 Conical Fermenter Giveaway!

Home Brew Forums > Home Brewing Beer > Recipes/Ingredients > Extract Belgian Witbier - for my first comp.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 02-04-2010, 06:34 PM   #1
SeamusMac
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 618
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default Extract Belgian Witbier - for my first comp.

Hey all,

I'm going to be brewing my first Belgian-style Witbier for a competition being held by a local microbrewery and HBS. Here's my draft recipe that I've been working on, any comments on how I could improve the recipe would be greatly appreciated.

Preboil:

4.5 gallons of water
0.1 pound of 10L crystal malt (placed in water when heating begins and removed once the temperature reaches 170*F)
0.5 pound of flaked oats (placed in water when heating begins and removed once the temperature reaches 170*F)

Boil:

60 minutes:
3 pounds of 60/40 wheat/barley dried malt extract
1 ounce of Tettnanger hops pellets

15 minutes:
3 pounds of pilsen dried malt extract
0.25 pound cane sugar
1 tablespoon of flour

End of Boil:

0.25 ounce of Saaz hops pellets
0.5 ounce of ground coriander
Zest from 4 medium oranges

Top up to 5 gallons and ferment with Wyeast 3463 (Forbidden Fruit) for approximately 2 weeks and bottle.

Changes made in red.

I'd also like to add a small amount of lactic acid at bottling time (perhaps 5mL) but I've read that it take a long time to blend properly with the other components of the beer's flavour.
Thoughts?

__________________

Primary: Edwort's Apfelwein
Primary: Brewingcentres Pale Ale
Primary: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat

Kegged: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat
Kegged: Brewcraft - Enhanced Dutch Lager
On Tap: Brewcraft - Irish Stout


Last edited by SeamusMac; 02-06-2010 at 06:09 PM.
SeamusMac is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-04-2010, 08:14 PM   #2
hoppymonkey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: north atlanta
Posts: 1,021
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

I'd add about 8oz of light crystal malt.( put in a hop bag and add and take out same time as the oats) Are you set on that type of yeast? what type of flavor are you wanting at the end? yeast is everything in anything that "belgian". Not saying that is a bad choice. I have never used it before myself.

__________________
hoppymonkey is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-06-2010, 01:42 AM   #3
SeamusMac
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 618
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppymonkey View Post
I'd add about 8oz of light crystal malt.( put in a hop bag and add and take out same time as the oats) Are you set on that type of yeast? what type of flavor are you wanting at the end? yeast is everything in anything that "belgian". Not saying that is a bad choice. I have never used it before myself.
I was considering some crystal malt but I don't want to darken the beer, I'll do some reading into how heavily a small quantity of light crystal malt will affect the colour.

The LHBS ran out of Wyeast 3944 (Belgian Witbier) and all of the smackpacks of that strain coming in their next shipment have been spoken for, so I checked out the Wyeast style guide and 3463 (Forbidden Fruit) was right at the top of the list. Sam Calagione also recommends this type of yeast as appropriate for the style.

Thanks for the tips hoppymonkey!
__________________

Primary: Edwort's Apfelwein
Primary: Brewingcentres Pale Ale
Primary: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat

Kegged: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat
Kegged: Brewcraft - Enhanced Dutch Lager
On Tap: Brewcraft - Irish Stout

SeamusMac is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-06-2010, 06:06 PM   #4
SeamusMac
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 618
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

I used the tastybrew.com calculator to do a short evaluation of my recipe and I believe it's looking good, except for the FG. As you can see below, I added a quarter pound of cane sugar to try and dry it out a little bit but I doubt I can get better than 75% attenuation with either strain of Witbier yeast and I'm not too keen on adding more table sugar... I also removed the dried bitter orange peels from the recipe as the hops already have it weighing on the heavy side of the IBU range for the style and the brewery that is hosting this event has never been known for bitter beers. Thoughts?

__________________

Primary: Edwort's Apfelwein
Primary: Brewingcentres Pale Ale
Primary: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat

Kegged: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat
Kegged: Brewcraft - Enhanced Dutch Lager
On Tap: Brewcraft - Irish Stout


Last edited by SeamusMac; 02-06-2010 at 06:11 PM.
SeamusMac is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-06-2010, 08:46 PM   #5
hoppymonkey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: north atlanta
Posts: 1,021
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

Looks good, but don't surprised if your FG ends up a little higher. Extract has more unfermentables in it and I had a real hard time getting much better than 1.020 the whole time I was extract brewing. I like the hop combo. I think I will go with something similiar for a hefe next. Enjoy and good luck with the contest.

__________________
hoppymonkey is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-06-2010, 09:18 PM   #6
SeamusMac
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 618
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppymonkey View Post
Looks good, but don't surprised if your FG ends up a little higher. Extract has more unfermentables in it and I had a real hard time getting much better than 1.020 the whole time I was extract brewing. I like the hop combo. I think I will go with something similiar for a hefe next. Enjoy and good luck with the contest.
I usually get similar results unfortunately, but I'm going to use some "yeast energizer" which has helped in the past. If that doesn't get me to a FG that I find suitable then I'm going to split the batch in half and pitch some Notty.
__________________

Primary: Edwort's Apfelwein
Primary: Brewingcentres Pale Ale
Primary: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat

Kegged: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat
Kegged: Brewcraft - Enhanced Dutch Lager
On Tap: Brewcraft - Irish Stout

SeamusMac is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-07-2010, 02:03 PM   #7
hoppymonkey
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: north atlanta
Posts: 1,021
Liked 11 Times on 9 Posts
Likes Given: 1

Default

can you post a pic and recipe for that blood orange hefe you have on tap. I was planning on something similiar next week.( BUT AG)

__________________
hoppymonkey is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-07-2010, 09:35 PM   #8
SeamusMac
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Posts: 618
Liked 4 Times on 4 Posts
Likes Given: 2

Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hoppymonkey View Post
can you post a pic and recipe for that blood orange hefe you have on tap. I was planning on something similiar next week.( BUT AG)
http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f85/blood-orange-hefeweizen-98579/

Check that thread out, it has tons of great info (including the recipe) and pics. I don't have a camera at the moment so I'm incapable of taking a picture of my Hefe, although it looks exactly like the picture on the first page of the linked thread. Also, Pivot did an AG version of the recipe.
__________________

Primary: Edwort's Apfelwein
Primary: Brewingcentres Pale Ale
Primary: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat

Kegged: Brewcraft - Cheap 'n' Shiddy Bavarian Wheat
Kegged: Brewcraft - Enhanced Dutch Lager
On Tap: Brewcraft - Irish Stout

SeamusMac is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Old 02-19-2010, 10:03 PM   #9
david83
Feedback Score: 0 reviews
Recipes 
 
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: Tolland County CT
Posts: 327
Liked 8 Times on 8 Posts

Default

i brewed a belgium blonde using the wyeast forbidon fruit and have sampled a bottle 2 weeks of conditioning so still pretty green but you will be very happy using that strain.

__________________

-Problem is a lot of people are retarded, and one thing retarded people are good at is blaming everyone else when they do something idiotic-



Keg 1-Slap U in the face Orange Kolsch!
Keg 2-English brown eYe ale!

david83 is offline
 
Reply With Quote Quick reply to this message
Reply


Quick Reply
Message:
Options
Thread Tools


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Belgian Witbier Nickeldeposit Recipes/Ingredients 4 12-11-2009 09:24 PM
my first belgian witbier BrooklynBrew Recipes/Ingredients 11 04-10-2009 04:45 PM
Belgian Witbier KnightBrewer Extract Brewing 4 07-31-2008 03:39 PM
Belgian Witbier yeast bluedragoon85 General Beer Discussion 12 03-13-2008 06:29 PM
Belgian Witbier Recipe Brewerbach Recipes/Ingredients 0 04-21-2006 03:24 PM