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big supper 11-13-2007 07:44 PM

ESB - Take 1
 
Here is a rough draft. As always, I apreciate any comments!!

.9 kg. English 2-row Pale
.25 kg. Belgian Biscuit
.25 kg. Crystal Malt 80L
.25 kg. Belgian Cara-Pils

3.5 kg. Liquid Light Extract

50 g. East Kent Goldings (Pellets, 6 %AA) boiled 60 min.
25 g. East Kent Goldings (Pellets, 6 %AA) boiled 10 min.
25 g. East Kent Goldings (Pellets, 6 %AA) boiled 30 min.
25 g. East Kent Goldings (Pellets, 6 %AA) used as dry hop

DCL Yeast Safale S-04 Top Quality Ale Yeast

Grains 155F 60 min.
LME 1/2 at 60min 1/2 at 0min

Orfy 11-13-2007 08:21 PM

What is the ABV and IBU on that? What English 2 row are you using?

I'd move the 10 minute to flame out and forget the dry hop and splut it between the 30 and 0 addition.
I wouldn't use a Belgian malt in an English style.

But that's just me.

big supper 11-13-2007 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orfy
What is the ABV and IBU on that? What English 2 row are you using?

I'd move the 10 minute to flame out and forget the dry hop and splut it between the 30 and 0 addition.
I wouldn't use a Belgian malt in an English style.

But that's just me.

ABV about 5.6 IBU's 42

the 2 row is Hugh Baird. I really want Marris Otter but the store doesn't have it.

The biscuit had been suggested by some, either that or victory. The wiki said that both are typical in english ales.

Orfy 11-14-2007 04:49 AM

Like I say, It's just the way I'd go.

I'd go with it if you are happy with it. I'm sure it'd be a good beer.
I mash high so get the malty flavour from base grains alon with the crystal.

big supper 11-14-2007 12:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orfy
Like I say, It's just the way I'd go.

I'd go with it if you are happy with it. I'm sure it'd be a good beer.
I mash high so get the malty flavour from base grains alon with the crystal.

Cool. Thanks. You got me thinkin'!!! I think I will ditch the dry hopping.

Is dry hopping used much in english/british ales?

ALso, does the english 2 row make much difference, or should I just use the canadian 2 row?

Orfy 11-14-2007 05:05 PM

I'm not sure what Cultivar the Canadian 2 row is.
English 2 row tends to have a malty/buscuity flavour.

In the UK we brew beer to a required profile and don't stick to American judging guide lines.
If a brewery wants to dry hop they do, if they don't they don't.
It's an extra process that affects the time it takes to get the brew out of the door.
The are generally not dry hopped.

UK beers are generally not as hoppy as US beers.
an ESB is just a name given by some breweries to Bitters that are a little stronger than their standard bitters. The hops are generaly just increased to balance the ABV and possible increased maltiness.

big supper 11-14-2007 05:13 PM

Great! I have been learning so much more about beer than I ever thought I would.

Would you say that 40 IBU's is too much for 5.6%ABV?

Orfy 11-14-2007 05:15 PM

It depends if you are a HopHead or not.
I don't think it is.

I pinched the chart from BM...(well he shared it)
I'd say it puts it in the extra hoppy range.
My BIGIPA was off the scale and I loved it. It made my mouth tingle.

http://www.orfyblog.com/brew/hopchart.jpg


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