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Old 04-15-2009, 07:07 PM   #1
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Does anyone know of a resource similar to this yeast comparison chart, but for dry yeast? That is, what are the equivalent strains of White Labs and Wyeast for Danstar, Fermentis, etc.? I know a few of them, but I've never seen a well-documented list.


UPDATE (04-15-2009):
Here is a list of "rough equivalents". Some may be the same strain and some may just be good substitutes. There are many missing and some may not even have good equivalents. Let us know if you have additions or knowledge for changes. I'll update this as info comes in.

UPDATE (05-17-2009):
I added a few more after coming upon some new information on a German homebrewing forum that seems to have some credibility based on correspondences with Wyeast regarding Fermentis strains.

Danstar:
Nottingham ≈ WLP039 ≈ Wyeast ??
Windsor ≈ WLP??Wyeast ??
Diamond Lager ≈ WLP??Wyeast ??
Munich Wheat Beer ≈ WLP351≈ Wyeast 3638

Fermentis
Safale S-04 ≈ WLP007 ≈ Wyeast 1099 (1098?)
Safale S-05 ≈ WLP001 ≈ Wyeast 1056
Safale K-97 ≈ WLP320(?) or WLP036(?) ≈ Wyeast 1007(?)

Saflager S-23 ≈ WLP820(?) ≈ Wyeast 2206(?)
Saflager S-189 ≈ Platinum WLP885(?)≈ Wyeast 2278(?)
Saflager W34/70 ≈ WLP830 ≈ Wyeast 2124

Safbrew T-58 ≈ WLP500(?) (WLP540?) ≈ Wyeast 1214(?) (1762?)
Safbrew S-33 ≈ WLP005(?) ≈ Wyeast 1187(?)
Safbrew WB-06 ≈ WLP?? ≈ Wyeast 3056(?)

Muntons
Standard Ale Yeast ≈ WLP?? Wyeast ??
Premium Gold Ale Yeast ≈ WLP?? Wyeast ??

Cooper's
Cooper's Ale Yeast ≈ WLP?? Wyeast ??

Brewferm
Brewferm Blanche ≈ WLP?? Wyeast??

Superior
Superior Dry Lager Yeast ≈ WLP?? Wyeast??

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I've never seen one either, but there are so few - I can only think of 3 or 4 ale yeasts off the top of my head that are ever used - that I'm not sure one exists. I'm sure there are some that are comparable, but none that identical like the liquid strains.

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I have never seen one either but think it would be an extremely valuable resource. Especially to new brewers who are not versed in yeast flavor profiles and just want to match up a dry yeast to it's liquid counterpart listed in a certain recipe.

Another valuable part of such a chart would be a section for "recommended substitutes". There is not as many strains available dry and it would be helpful to know which ones are closest to certain liquid strains.

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Another valuable part of such a chart would be a section for "recommended substitutes". There is not as many strains available dry and it would be helpful to know which ones are closest to certain liquid strains.
I have seen a graphic that showed a bunch of different yeast (mostly dry, but with a few of the "standard" liquid yeasts) that showed compartive attenuation, ester production, and temp range, and recommended styles. I'll try to dig it up.
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these are the ones I know:

s-04 = WLP007 (or so I hear)
s-05 = WLP001 (once again, hearsay)
notty = WLP039

I'm not sure about the wb-06 or the lager ones, I've never used 'em

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s-04 = WLP007 (or so I hear)
I believe S-04 is 1099 Whitbread Ale Yeast.

I have also heard that T-58 is the Chimay strain...but I have no idea if this is accurate or not.
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If we can get a list going with some relative certainty, I'll add it/update it to my OP for a good reference thread.

Fermentis Saflager W34/70 = White Labs WLP830 = Wyeast 2124.

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I believe S-04 is 1099 Whitbread Ale Yeast.
I put it as 1098 in my list above because the Mr. Malty link refers to both WLP007 and Wyeast 1098 as "Whitbread- dry" and 1099 is just referred to as "Whitbread", but you could be right.
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I put it as 1098 in my list above because the Mr. Malty link refers to both WLP007 and Wyeast 1098 as "Whitbread- dry" and 1099 is just referred to as "Whitbread", but you could be right.
Could very well be, I assumed it wasn't the "dry" one since the yeast never goes very dry for me.

Is Superior still making that dry lager yeast? I haven't seen it for sale anywhere in a long time.
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Danstar Munich Wheat Beer = WLP351, though not quite as phenolic.

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