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Old 03-10-2011, 02:08 AM   #1
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Default Dogfish head Rasion D'Etre extract brew

Hey guys, quick question, i brewed the recipe given in EXTREME Brewing for Dogfish head Raison D'etre. I have always wanted this brew but they dont sell it where i live so i brewed it. I bottled it tonight and took a sample and it is much more sour then i anticipated. is this normal with this brew? and if not is it still drinkable? thanks for all input

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Old 03-10-2011, 02:16 AM   #2
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The real one has a definite typical ale sourness - but nothing more sour than that. Tell us about your process. How long was the ferment, what temps, and how long has it been in bottles?

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Old 03-10-2011, 03:14 AM   #3
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fermented it at around 70 - 74 for 3 weeks, just bottled it today

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Are you familiar with the "green beer" taste of acetaldehyde? Does it taste like that? Even with a three week fermentation, it can be difficult to tell at bottling time what the fully developed taste will be. It's definitely still early. Give it at least 3 weeks in bottle before judging. Depending on the yeast 70-74 may be a little on the high side. I think it is common to start a fermentation for this style at a lower temp, then raise it toward the end.

Tell us about your recipe, including hops and yeast. Are there any pure sugars involved?

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Not familiar with that taste. I used these ingredients

4 oz. crushed 60L crystal malt
8 oz. crushed light cocolate malt
6 lbs. light malt syrup
2 lbs. Light dry malt extract
1/2 oz. warrior hops (boil)
mixed 6 oz. of golden raisons and 2 cups of wort in the food processor and added at flame out and to the fermentor
8 oz, belgian medium candi sugar
1/2 vanguard hops at flame out
and used Wyeast 3522 belgian ale

the recipe sais to ferment from 71-74 farenheit
gravity readings are the way they are supposed to be just a real sour taste, i have heard of bad yeast giving a sour taste so im just kind of skeptical to if it all came out right

i went ahead and cracked open one of the smaller bottles i have and gave it a taste, its lost alot of the sour flavor already just 24 hours after bottling. but like you said theres no way to tell until its fully carbonated and ready to drink

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If you still think it's sour even after full aging, try this ...

http://www.bjcp.org/faults.php

There are probably other troubleshooting guides, but I've found this to be a handy reference. Maybe what you taste is Estery.

And not that your even thinking about dumping it but ... this is a really good read:

http://www.homebrewtalk.com/f39/neve...en-beer-73254/

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