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mrrshotshot 07-03-2012 01:56 AM

DIPA Hop additions/schedule
 
Thoughts on these hop additions/schedule:

2 oz. Columbus (60 min)
2 oz. Citra (30 min)
0.5 oz. Amarillo (15 min)
0.5 oz. Cascade (15 min)
0.5 oz. Amarillo (5 min)
0.5 oz. Cascade (5 min)
1 oz. Amarillo (dry hop)
1 oz. Cascade (dry hop)

Cheers:mug:

lumpher 07-03-2012 02:15 AM

have to know hop alphas and malt adds to make that call. columbus can be 12%, and my last was 17.9%. an ibu of 45 is ok with 6.5%, but not quite so right with a 9%

mrrshotshot 07-03-2012 02:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpher (Post 4220718)
have to know hop alphas and malt adds to make that call. columbus can be 12%, and my last was 17.9%. an ibu of 45 is ok with 6.5%, but not quite so right with a 9%

Sorry, heres all the info

10 gallon batch (11 total)

30 lb American 2-row
2 lb crystal 40
2 lb Toasted Pale malt

I havent actually bought any of the ingredients yet but this is what BeerTools has for me:
Columbus 15%
Citra 12%
Amarillo 8.5%
Cascade 5.5%

I also plan on putting a vodka zest mix in the keg while finishing of orange, lemon, and grapefruit zests to add to the aromas.

lumpher 07-03-2012 02:45 AM

what time is the beer being served? :D i wouldn't add all that extra stuff first time. try it, then improvise

mrrshotshot 07-03-2012 02:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lumpher (Post 4220784)
what time is the beer being served? :D i wouldn't add all that extra stuff first time. try it, then improvise

lol 4 weeks from when our brew stand is finished being welded :rockin:. We're not going to go too overboard with the zest... a tiny amount at first then improve from there.

Tinga 07-03-2012 03:46 AM

get rid fo the 30 min addition as all the goodness gets boiled off. save those precious citra for more flavor and aroma towards the end of the boil. from this recipe it looks like you need waaaaayyyy more hops during the final 15 minutes. I just made a DIPA in a 2.5 gallon batch and I had bigger additions. I would think 2 oz of each hop at 15 and zero would be a good number. I don't brew 10 gallon batches so I'm not quite sure but you definitely need to move that 30 min addition to later and add more hops to the bill.

mrrshotshot 07-04-2012 07:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tinga (Post 4220911)
get rid fo the 30 min addition as all the goodness gets boiled off. save those precious citra for more flavor and aroma towards the end of the boil. from this recipe it looks like you need waaaaayyyy more hops during the final 15 minutes. I just made a DIPA in a 2.5 gallon batch and I had bigger additions. I would think 2 oz of each hop at 15 and zero would be a good number. I don't brew 10 gallon batches so I'm not quite sure but you definitely need to move that 30 min addition to later and add more hops to the bill.

Cool thanks.

Yeah I'll up the hops at 15, 5, and flameout. As is I think my IBU's were hovering around 80 so I'll just mod everything to get more flavors and aromas out of that bad boy

Boy 07-05-2012 09:26 AM

Honestly for my taste big adds of high alphas at 60min tend to be overly bitter and strip the taste buds. I like to do FWH for the flavor and bittering and then do a hop burst in the last 15min to really boost the hops. Especially for a IIPA. Hitting high IBUs just to have bitterness and reach the guidelines is pointless to me in a beer where you really want all the hops to shine. I would also up your dry hop by at least .5 each for bigger aroma. Lastly using Citra at 30min is kind of a waste. Use it in the last 15min or as the FWH.

Pliny is considered one of the best IIPAs out there. The clone recipe is all over the net so check out there schedule.

bobbrews 07-05-2012 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Boy (Post 4226282)
Honestly for my taste big adds of high alphas at 60min tend to be overly bitter and strip the taste buds.

Pliny is considered one of the best IIPAs out there. The clone recipe is all over the net so check out there schedule.

While I totally agree with you, Pliny also bitters with 3.50 oz. hops for a 5 gallon batch.

mrrshotshot 07-05-2012 01:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boy
Honestly for my taste big adds of high alphas at 60min tend to be overly bitter and strip the taste buds. I like to do FWH for the flavor and bittering and then do a hop burst in the last 15min to really boost the hops. Especially for a IIPA. Hitting high IBUs just to have bitterness and reach the guidelines is pointless to me in a beer where you really want all the hops to shine. I would also up your dry hop by at least .5 each for bigger aroma. Lastly using Citra at 30min is kind of a waste. Use it in the last 15min or as the FWH.

Sorry, FWH?

So the generalization I'm getting is to use an ounce or so of high alpha hops at 60 for bittering, then mega hop additions of citra, amarillo, and cascade at 15, 10, 5, and flameout?

Are these hops pretty suitable for a good DIPA? This will be my first AG batch.

I would like to meet the style guidelines so that I can enter into homebrew competitions and not be dinged for missing the Target ibu's


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