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Old 08-21-2007, 03:56 PM   #1
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Default DFH 60: LHBS didn't have Warrior; went with Columbus

I went to brew a PM version of the DFH 60 Minute recipe thats in "Extreme Brewing" by none other than DFH's Sam Calagione.

The recipe calls for 1.5oz of hops spread out over 60 minutes. .5oz each of Warrior, Simcoe, and Amarillo Gold. my LHBS doesn't have warrior so I went with columbus (12.5aa vs 15aa) and upped it to .75oz of the columbus.

Anyone ever interchange these two? I'm curious how different I should expect this beer to be.

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Old 08-21-2007, 05:00 PM   #2
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Actually I think you made a good choice with using the Columbus.

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Dude I guess I'm going to have to ship the whole 5 gallons to you for disposal, right?

I think this is going to be the first beer I prime with DME as opposed to sugar. I want tiny bubbles.

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Tomahawk is probably closer, but I think the Simcoe and Amarillo dominate the flavor & aroma anyway. Nothing wrong with Columbus though, I buy it by the pound.

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Uh, David, aren't Tomahawk and Columbus the same thing? I swear I've read that "Tomahawk" was just a trademark name for Columbus...

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I personally think you made a great choice. I dont know how Columbus and Warrior stack up, but Columbus is probably my favorite high AAU hop. It may not taste exactly like DFH, but I would be willing to bet it is going to be mighty tasty.

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Uh, David, aren't Tomahawk and Columbus the same thing? I swear I've read that "Tomahawk" was just a trademark name for Columbus...
Yeah, that's correct. Same cultivar.

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and from what ive heard, there will be no more production of the Warrior hops.

Can anyone confirm that?

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My understanding is that they're getting extremely difficult to get this season due to the warehouse fire in Yakima knocking out a lot of high alpha varieties.

I'd love to know where you heard that they are gone for good, they were an extremely successfsul cultivar because of the Alpha content.

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My understanding is that they're getting extremely difficult to get this season due to the warehouse fire in Yakima knocking out a lot of high alpha varieties.
Yes, and Columbus is getting hard to find for the same reason. Glad I got both Warrior and Columbus last time I ordered from Freshops.

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I'd love to know where you heard that they are gone for good, they were an extremely successfsul cultivar because of the Alpha content.

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I hope not. That's the first I've heard of that. Found nothing on the Yakima Chief website about it, and they ought to know. Hmmm...

I'm hoping this year's harvest eases things a bit.

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