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01-15-2008, 02:20 PM
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I am just getting into designing my own recipes. I feel the way i am approaching my designs is with way to much guess and check. How do you approach designing your  .
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01-15-2008, 02:23 PM
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I experiment wildly and then when I hit on something truely special, I tweak it if needeed.
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01-15-2008, 02:29 PM
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The way I view it is, once you have technique down and have a good feel for what works together historically then you can begin venturing in 'new' directions. A good test of this is to try to brew 'in style' based on the 'accepted' guidelines for a style. When that can be accomplished it is a fairly good indicator of technique (among other things). Then whatever you dream can be attempted. I say attempted because it will usually be a tweaking process, sometimes an unprecedented rework of a recipe. At least this has been the path I have followed. I experiment and don't even allow style to cross my mind. That is not my goal. My goal is to be able to brew what I dream up. Like I have said before, there is nothing wrong with brewing 'in style' as I do this regularly, but I believe that 'style' shouldn't prevent anyone from expressing their own creativity as a brewer.
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01-15-2008, 02:54 PM
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I agree that you don't have to brew to style. but i am starting to do competitions and would like to brew nice well balanced beer to style. The problem is even though i have read designing great beer and Radical Brewing. I still don't understand what the grains bring to the table with out randomly toughing stuff to together which i really don't want to do. The last beer I brewed, I looked at the style guidelines and then wrote out what i wanted from those characteristics and then using what little i know about the different grains I designed my recipe. I just wish i had a better understanding of how much of a speciality grain was needed to impart a particular aroma/color/flavor to the brew.
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01-15-2008, 02:55 PM
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Get the book Designing Great Beers; it is a must have resource when developing your own recipes.
My typical approach is to read the relevant section in that book, then check the recipe database for inspiration. Once I have something I think looks good I make it and begin the process of tweaking it over the course of several brews until it is just how I want it.
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01-15-2008, 02:57 PM
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My process typically goes a little something like this:
- Check BJCP guidelines for my style, just so I know what I'm shooting for, generally speaking.
- Check 'Designing Great Beers' to see if Daniels has any info on that style---many times he does not, especially when it comes to anything Belgian.
- Check CJOH and the BYO Clones article for guidance. I never copy a recipe directly, but I do use them to get a general idea of some good grains and hops to use, and in what proportions.
- Plug everything into ProMash, adjust it based on what I have in inventory, and tweak the recipe to fit the BJCP guidelines.
- Post the recipe to HBT and ask for critiques.
- Adjust recipe based on HBT comments.
- Print, Brew.
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01-15-2008, 02:57 PM
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Originally Posted by TheJadedDog
Get the book Designing Great Beers; it is a must have resource when developing your own recipes.
My typical approach is to read the relevant section in that book, then check the recipe database for inspiration. Once I have something I think looks good I make it and begin the process of tweaking it over the course of several brews until it is just how I want it.
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Yeah, I wish he would do a second book with the styles that he neglected in DGB...
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MOSS HOLLOW BREWING CO.
Aristocratic Ales, Lascivious Lagers
.planned:
•Scottish 80/- •Sweet Stout •Roggenbier
.primary | bright:
98: Moss Hollow Soured '09 72: Oude Kriek 99: B-Weisse 102: Brett'd BDSA 104: Feat of Strength Helles Bock 105: Merkin Brown
.on tap | kegged:
XX: Moss Hollow Springs Sparkling Water 95: Gott Mit Uns German Pils 91b: Brown Willie's Oaked Abbey Ale 103: Merkin Stout
98: Yorkshire Special 100: Maple Porter 89: Cidre Saison 101: Steffiweizen '09 (#3)
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01-15-2008, 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by Evan!
My process typically goes a little something like this:
- Check BJCP guidelines for my style, just so I know what I'm shooting for, generally speaking.
- Check 'Designing Great Beers' to see if Daniels has any info on that style---many times he does not, especially when it comes to anything Belgian.
- Check CJOH and the BYO Clones article for guidance. I never copy a recipe directly, but I do use them to get a general idea of some good grains and hops to use, and in what proportions.
- Plug everything into ProMash, adjust it based on what I have in inventory, and tweak the recipe to fit the BJCP guidelines.
- Post the recipe to HBT and ask for critiques.
- Adjust recipe based on HBT comments.
- Print, Brew.
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What is CJOH?
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