Deschutes Red Chair NWPA knockoff/recipe construction - Page 3

larrybrewer · 04-05-2010, 09:26 PM

Any updates on how the attempts above turned out? I really want to brew this.

saq · 04-05-2010, 10:01 PM

I actually think my recipe (if proper efficiency and attenuation were achieved) would have a comparable malt character, comparable bitterness but a different hop profile.

If you want a real clone sub my hops with comparable IBU levels of centennial and cascade.

larrybrewer · 07-17-2010, 06:15 PM

Thanks guys, I finally got my batch done and taste tested. The beer turned out great.
I'd add 2 oz of cascade at flame out just to punch up the hop hit.
By the way, its an American IPA, not a Pale Ale, based on BJCP standards.

For full details see:
http://www.brewersfriend.com/2010/07/17/deschutes-red-chair-nwpa-clone-home-brew-recipe/

GetLooseontheGoose · 04-18-2011, 11:41 PM

So yeah...they changed the recipe for this years Red Chair. I used Larry's recipe from the 2010 batch, but had a few tweeks:

10 gal (all grain):
13 lb 2-row Pale
2.0 lb Crystal 20L
1 lb Carastan (30L)
2 lb Munich
2 lb Pilsner
1 lb CaraPils

(@ 75% brewhouse efficiency,10 gallon batch)

Hops:
Columbus, 1 ounce, FW
Columbus, 1 ounce, 60 minutes
Cascade, 1 ounce, 15 minutes
Cascade, 1ounce, 5 minutes
Cascade, 2 ounce, 1 minute (flame out)
Amraillo, 2 ounce, dry hop

Yeast:
WL 005

I will let everyone know how this turns out.

mudhut · 05-17-2011, 04:46 AM

Saw this recipe and thought of red chair...the original recipe was meant to have amarillo, but due to shortage they are using cascade and centennial.

Quote:

A strong, deep copper-red ale that boasts
a complex malt profile but is really a showcase for hopbursting. Hopbursting forgoes the traditional additions of bittering hops
early in the boil in favor of copious additions of aroma varieties late in the boil. For the brewer, the result is a significant IBU
contribution as well as intense hop aroma
and flavor from the late additions. For the
drinker, the result is smooth bitterness in
a pint suffused with a fragrant fog of hop
flavor and aroma.

http://www.northernbrewer.com/documentation/allgrain/AG-JamilsEvilTwin.pdf

I might use a grain bill and hop schedule very similar to this, but replacing the victory with carastan and skipping the chocolate malt.

GetLooseontheGoose · 05-27-2011, 05:43 PM

Review of the clone brewed on the 17 Apr - tasted 26 May

A - pours out a good clear amber/copper color, with nice head. good lacing all the way down. Think this captured Red Chair well.

S - Noted some fruity/piney tones to compliment a nice aroma of citrus/grapefruit hopiness

T - The taste has a very nice mix of hoppy and malty. I get some malty, slight caramel notes coming through. From the hops I get the grapefruit flavors, along with a slight fruit flavor. Pine is there, but a little less present than in the aroma. It finishes on the bitter side. Good hop flavor to it overall, but I think a bit stronger than Red Chair.

M - Light body with average carbonation.

D - Super drinkable beer. It finished at 5.1% Definitely a session beer.

I think i would play with the hops a bit more. Overall, this is a really good APA very similar to Deschutes version.

Thanks to the OP for the recipe!!

jparamch · 05-27-2011, 09:18 PM

Here's one I cobbled together, it was a real hit at our octoberfest last year. Dry keg at the end of the afternoon.

http://hopville.com/recipe/298642/american-ipa-recipes/red-lounger

As mentioned in there - I cold steeped the roasted barley and then added it and sparged right at the end to extract the color primarily without the roasted barley hit.

peregrinebio · 07-02-2011, 06:39 AM

Hey Guys,
Thanks for sharing the work on this. I really enjoyed this beer when I lived in WA. My version has a little twist because I had a bag of Citra hops I've been wanting to experiment with. Definitely the best IPA or pale ale I've made to date!!! Really reminds me of the NW beers I've been missing. I used Larry's grist bill, WLP007, and Mashed @ 151. OG: 1.059 FG:1.013. Hop Schedule:
1oz Columbus @ 60
0.5oz Citra @ 10
0.50oz Citra @ 5
1oz Citra @ KO
1oz Citra Dry Hop

When I brew this again I might up the flavor hops at 10 min and maybe a little more bittering hops just because I like to tinker, but the malt with the WLP007 is great!