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cracked1 05-31-2011 03:32 AM

Deschutes Red Chair clone attempt
 
I didn't know the Deschutes website had "hints" for homebrewers until recently. I thought I'd try my hand at cloning their Red Chair NWPA. I've only formulated recipes from scratch twice before so please critique!!

From the Descutes website:

Red Chair NWPA Clone
A thrilling citrus-y ride
Recipe Type: Homebrew
Red Chair NWPA

Specifics
Recipe type: All grain
Batch size: 5 U.S. gallons
Original gravity: 1.060-1.065
Final gravity: 1.015-1.019
Boil time: 95 minutes
Fermentation temp: 65 F
Yeast type: English Ale

Malt
NW 2-row Pale Malt
Crystal Malt
Carastan
Carapils
Munich
Pilsner
Hops
Cascade
Centennial
**Note: Temps, times and weights are the challenge. Happy Brewing!


I don't currently have Carastan in my system and I'm not sure if my LHBS has it so I replaced it for now with Crystal 30...

Here's what I've got so far:

The ABV on the side of the bottle says 6.2%. The estimated ABV from this recipe is 6.18% with an estimated FG of 1.016.

BeerSmith Recipe Printout - http://www.beersmith.com
Recipe: Red Chair clone attempt 1
Brewer: Wicked Chicken
Asst Brewer:
Style: American IPA
TYPE: All Grain
Taste: (35.0)

Recipe Specifications
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Batch Size: 5.00 gal
Boil Size: 6.78 gal
Estimated OG: 1.063 SG
Estimated Color: 8.3 SRM
Estimated IBU: 60.5 IBU
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75.00 %
Boil Time: 95 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amount Item Type % or IBU
8.00 lb Pale Malt (2 Row) US (2.0 SRM) Grain 68.38 %
1.50 lb Munich Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 12.82 %
1.25 lb Pilsner (2 Row) Bel (2.0 SRM) Grain 10.68 %
0.50 lb Cara-Pils/Dextrine (2.0 SRM) Grain 4.27 %
0.25 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 30L (30.0 SRM) Grain 2.14 %
0.20 lb Caramel/Crystal Malt - 20L (20.0 SRM) Grain 1.71 %
1.00 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (60 min) Hops 34.1 IBU
0.75 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (20 min) Hops 8.5 IBU
0.75 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (10 min) Hops 9.3 IBU
0.75 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (10 min) Hops 5.1 IBU
0.25 oz Centennial [10.00 %] (5 min) Hops 1.7 IBU
0.50 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (5 min) Hops 1.9 IBU

1.00 oz Cascade [5.50 %] (Dry Hop 14 days) Hops -

1 Pkgs British Ale (Wyeast Labs #1098) Yeast-Ale


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 11.70 lb
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Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Step Time Name Description Step Temp
60 min Mash In Add 14.63 qt of water at 167.7 F 152.0 F

AZ_IPA 05-31-2011 03:36 AM

I'm liking what I see. I just recently discovered this beer and love it!

I'm thinking that WLP001 or Wyeast 1056 may be more appropriate - or even Wyeast 1272.

Let us know how it turns out! :mug:

cracked1 05-31-2011 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ_IPA (Post 2967163)
I'm liking what I see. I just recently discovered this beer and love it!

I'm thinking that WLP001 or Wyeast 1056 may be more appropriate - or even Wyeast 1272.

Let us know how it turns out! :mug:


The problem with 1056 or 1272 is that Deschutes specifies "English Ale" yeast.

AZ_IPA 05-31-2011 03:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cracked1 (Post 2967176)
The problem with 1056 or 1272 is that Deschutes specifies "English Ale" yeast.

oops. :o

:D

I find that interesting that NW Pale Ale would use an English ale yeast, especially since it specifies NW Pale malt....

cracked1 05-31-2011 03:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AZ_IPA (Post 2967179)
oops. :o

:D

I find that interesting that NW Pale Ale would use an English ale yeast, especially since it specifies NW Pale malt....

I'm with you on that... Looking at a few of their other beers it would seem that they have some sort of "house" strain that they find is closest to an English Ale yeast. Nearly every beer lists the same thing...

Here's the list --> http://www.deschutesbrewery.com/brews/homebrew-recipes

glienhard 11-08-2011 04:27 AM

@cracked1 - Did you ever brew this? How did it come out? Did you / would you make any changes? Thanks in advance

Boy 11-08-2011 09:14 AM

I'd swear it has amarillo in it. Although I guess it could just be a longer and bigger cascade dry hop

cracked1 11-09-2011 02:13 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by glienhard (Post 3466376)
@cracked1 - Did you ever brew this? How did it come out? Did you / would you make any changes? Thanks in advance

Yup... Brewed and currently on tap! I'm not 100% how close I came to Red Chair since it's not currently available. But it's pretty dang tasty. Like Red Chair, it's not as hoppy as an IPA but more hoppy than a typical pale. I took a growler to my LHBS when they were having a tasting and all the comments were very positive. Most people said it was very well balanced. One particularly inebriated female asked if I wear a cape when I brew... :drunk: The Sam Adams rep was saying that he needed to go and not drink anymore, then poured himself another pint. :D I will probably brew it again soon so I will have another batch to do a direct comparison. But even if it's not close I'm pretty sure it'll be a regular in my line-up.

joetothemo 01-10-2012 06:27 PM

I know this is old....but your yeast should be WLP 007 for this one.

Red Chair is back on shelves too. May be time to try this out!

cracked1 01-10-2012 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joetothemo (Post 3648682)
I know this is old....but your yeast should be WLP 007 for this one.

Red Chair is back on shelves too. May be time to try this out!

From what I've read, White Labs WLP 007 and Wyeast 1098 are essentially the same thing.

Also, from what I've read, Deschutes' "house strain" that they use is Wyeast 1968 (along with Lagunitas and Big Sky I think), so if anything I will probably got that direction next time.


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