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Old 09-12-2012, 02:43 AM   #1
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I brewed AHS Jester King Commercial Suicide Dark Mild clone a while ago and loved it. This recipe is based off of that with some modifications. I look forward to all critiques!

Also, I debated trying a no-sparge mash with this one. Do you think it would be a good idea? How would I need to adjust the grain bill? I've never done no-sparge so I'm not for sure how my efficiency would change.

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Boil Size: 7.19 gal
Post Boil Volume: 5.98 gal
Batch Size (fermenter): 5.25 gal
Bottling Volume: 5.25 gal
Estimated OG: 1.034 SG
Estimated Color: 19.4 SRM
Estimated IBU: 16.1 IBUs
Brewhouse Efficiency: 72.00 %
Est Mash Efficiency: 79.9 %
Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Ingredients:
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Amt Name Type # %/IBU
4 lbs Maris Otter (Crisp) (4.0 SRM) Grain 1 61.5 %
1 lbs Crystal Light - 45L (Crisp) (45.0 SRM) Grain 2 15.4 %
8.0 oz Chocolate Malt (350.0 SRM) Grain 3 7.7 %
8.0 oz Wheat, Red (Cargill) (2.9 SRM) Grain 4 7.7 %
1.00 oz Willamette [4.00 %] - Boil 60.0 min Hop 5 16.1 IBUs
1.00 Items Whirlfloc Tablet (Boil 15.0 mins) Fining 6 -
1.00 tsp Yeast Nutrient (Boil 15.0 mins) Other 7 -
8.0 oz Brown Sugar, Light [Boil for 15 min](8.0 Sugar 8 7.7 %
1.0 pkg West Yorkshire Ale (Wyeast #1469) Yeast 9 -


Mash Schedule: Single Infusion, Medium Body, Batch Sparge
Total Grain Weight: 6 lbs 8.0 oz
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Name Description Step Temperat Step Time
Mash In Add 7.50 qt of water at 163.7 F 152.0 F 60 min

Sparge: Batch sparge with 2 steps (Drain mash tun, , 6.29gal) of 168.0 F water

Will ferment at 68 F. Shooting for 3.5% abv.

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Seems like too much crystal and chocolate. I put 8 oz of chocolate in a brown that was 5.5 ABV and it was almost to overpowering. Dial both back so the total is about 15% of the grain bill.

Also, why brown sugar? That's going to contribute hardly anything to flavor. Just add more Maris Otter to make up for that volume.

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It looks fine, maybe a bit heavy on the crystal. I usually use carapils instead of wheat there, but I m sure the wheat would be nice!

What does the sugar do for you in this one? I am thinking it may be unneeded

I am not familiar with the yeast, but it sounds like a match.

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"Designing Great Beers" talks about it being "traditional" for the style so I was thinking about trying it. I'm not set on it though. I think when I added it I took out some Marris Otter and didn't think about needing to take out some of the darker malts, too. I might just forgo the brown sugar and up the Marris Otter again instead. Would I still need to pull the darker malts down a bit? Thanks for your advice!

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Your gonna end up with a really high FG, my guess would be around 1.018 if you keep it that high. If that's what you want then go for it, otherwise I'd tone it down to 1 lb between the 2 specialty grains. You definitely don't need that much chocolate.

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I would bring down the chocolate slightly so its not too roasty, but I think the crystal is fine. Reapers Mild uses a pound and a half, and I didn't think it was too sweet. Finished at 1.013. Although I've also done Bob's Session Mild and it is only 8 oz of 55L, and it was pretty tasty. Bob's has some special roast in it which gives a slightly tart edge.

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Thanks for the help so far guys! I have changed the recipe to:

5 lb Marris Otter
1 lb Crystal 40
4 oz Chocolate
8 oz Red Wheat

OG: 1.034

The only problem now is instead of it being around 20 SRM, it's now down to 14. I was hoping for around 20. Can I use darker crystal or would that change the flavor too much? Any other options for getting that darker color?

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Darker crystal will be fine, you can even split like 80/120. You'll be fine on flavor, I actually think that'll get you a better flavor for the mild cause you may get a bit of that plum flavor in it.

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Thanks for the help so far guys! I have changed the recipe to:

5 lb Marris Otter
1 lb Crystal 40
4 oz Chocolate
8 oz Red Wheat

OG: 1.034

The only problem now is instead of it being around 20 SRM, it's now down to 14. I was hoping for around 20. Can I use darker crystal or would that change the flavor too much? Any other options for getting that darker color?
Yes, you can definitely use C80/100/120, but that would be the top. Above 120 (C150, Special B, etc) you'd get wine-plum-etc flavors.

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